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Endgame Trio vs. Wonder Woman/Shazam/Aquaman

Fat Thor, Worthy Cap, and Bleeding Edge Iron Man

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Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Shazam

Fight takes place at Avengers HQ

Who wins


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WW or Shazam could very well solo.

Edit: ah, just read it's Worthy Cap. I'll still take team 2 after a good fight.

Aquaman is too weak.


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Change Fat Thor to IW Thor and team 1 wins. But with their current lineups... it's a toss up. Team 2 has better strength, speed and overall physicality, team 1 has better skill, experience and diversity of power output.


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Yeah, IW Thor would be too much.

Give me Ragnarok Thor and I'd pay to see this fight.


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I say DC team. Both thor and ironman were too pass their prime and I don't think worthy cap can pick the slack

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DC trio wins this.

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I say DC team. Both thor and ironman were too pass their prime and I don't think worthy cap can pick the slack


Thor maybe. But Tony had his best performance ever using Bleeding Edge in Infinity War and Endgame.

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Initially I was leaning towards DC too, but after thinking about it I think they have equal chances.

Shazam is probably the fastest here, with a good amount of strength, durability and ranged abilities... but he's extremely unexperienced and his fighting skill sucks. He's the only (true) flier in the DC team.

Aquaman has some decent physical attributes but he lacks raw destructive output or any form of ranged attacks (unless he throws his trident).

WW is DC' strongest player and she's the only one who has AOE attacks in her team but we know she's also vulnerable to bullets. We don't know how well she can handle IM's attacks.


On the Marvel side:

Thor is a joke of his former self but he still has the best durability feats among any here plus he has the strongest AOE, strongest ranged attacks, and the most dangerous weapon that can one-shot anyone here with a direct hit.

IM has the most diverse arsenal, is the most experienced flier, his armor grants him a limited amount of regenerative abilities, and he's already proven himself against Thanos.

Cap is the best fighter, has a crazy weapon combination of hammer and shield, has the physicality of an asgardian, and now also has lightning and flight due to Mjolnir.
All the MCU members can fly.


This can go either way but it will not be an easy fight for any.


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Thor maybe. But Tony had his best performance ever using Bleeding Edge in Infinity War and Endgame.


Infinity war, yes. But end game Tony was the first of the three to go out against thanos and his reaction time was generally a lot slower. Dude got old, it happens.

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Initially I was leaning towards DC too, but after thinking about it I think they have equal chances.

Shazam is probably the fastest here, with a good amount of strength, durability and ranged abilities... but he's extremely unexperienced and his fighting skill sucks. He's the only (true) flier in the DC team.

Aquaman has some decent physical attributes but he lacks raw destructive output or any form of ranged attacks (unless he throws his trident).

WW is DC' strongest player and she's the only one who has AOE attacks in her team but we know she's also vulnerable to bullets. We don't know how well she can handle IM's attacks.


On the Marvel side:

Thor is a joke of his former self but he still has the best durability feats among any here plus he has the strongest AOE, strongest ranged attacks, and the most dangerous weapon that can one-shot anyone here with a direct hit.

IM has the most diverse arsenal, is the most experienced flier, his armor grants him a limited amount of regenerative abilities, and he's already proven himself against Thanos.

Cap is the best fighter, has a crazy weapon combination of hammer and shield, has the physicality of an asgardian, and now also has lightning and flight due to Mjolnir.
All the MCU members can fly.


This can go either way but it will not be an easy fight for any.


Yes, but stormbreaker doesn't have the same enchantment on that the hammer does so it can be relatively easily disarmed and turned against the marvel team by an expierence fighter like aquaman or wonder woman.

Tony is past his prime and was pretty sloppy compared to his infinity war self.

Only cap kept on top of things. I can easily see him ending up facing two or three members of the other team solo, and I don't think he can hack it

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Yes, but stormbreaker doesn't have the same enchantment on that the hammer does so it can be relatively easily disarmed and turned against the marvel team by an expierence fighter like aquaman or wonder woman.

Tony is past his prime and was pretty sloppy compared to his infinity war self.

Only cap kept on top of things. I can easily see him ending up facing two or three members of the other team solo, and I don't think he can hack it


And Thor can easily summon back Stormbreaker even if he gets disarmed. Same for Mjolnir. Same cannot be said for WW's weapons or Arthur's trident.

Thor and IM also have better feats against slashing/thrusting weapons. We know Thor specifically has been able to withstand numerous piercing attacks.

And while Thor was indeed past his prime, I saw no indication that IM was. And even if Thor is past his prime, none of the DC trio can easily take him out. They'll still have to work to work for it, and there's a good chance whoever tries to go up against him will be taken out instead.

Like I said, it can go either way.


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Where do we put Shazam in relation to Supes power-wise?


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He's not even close.

He's not close to these guys either, not by feats.

There isn't a single strength feat he has on par with anyone in this thread except for maybe Iron Man (Worthy Cap has Thor's physicals due to Mjolnir right?)

He's probably the fastest character here and he has the best flight, but those are his sole advantages. He might end up being on par with Superman in a future film but his movie is so self-contained you can't scale him off of anyone, and his actual feats in the movie just aren't all that impressive as people who manhandle submarines or can physically resist Doomsday.

Hell, he doesn't even have a lifting strength feat on par with pre-awaken Diana lifting that tank lol, unless you want to scale him off of Pedro, though Pedro didn't lift that ferris wheel IIRC. I'd have to see the feat again.


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Tbh I should see the movie again as I hardly remember shit about it in terms of feats. Gonna be posting here what I can make out of it later.


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And Thor can easily summon back Stormbreaker even if he gets disarmed. Same for Mjolnir. Same cannot be said for WW's weapons or Arthur's trident.

Thor and IM also have better feats against slashing/thrusting weapons. We know Thor specifically has been able to withstand numerous piercing attacks.

And while Thor was indeed past his prime, I saw no indication that IM was. And even if Thor is past his prime, none of the DC trio can easily take him out. They'll still have to work to work for it, and there's a good chance whoever tries to go up against him will be taken out instead.

Like I said, it can go either way.


What better feats against piercing weapons? If I'm remembering correctly, the only feats against piercing weapons for thor was when he fought loki in the first avengers and hela. He lost both times. For Tony, I only remember the end of infinity war. That didn't go great for him either.

As for Tony and being past their prime, both had ridiculously slower reflexes than they had previously. Thanos was snacking them around like rag dolls where both previously were able to keep up with his speed.

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What better feats against piercing weapons? If I'm remembering correctly, the only feats against piercing weapons for thor was when he fought loki in the first avengers and hela. He lost both times. For Tony, I only remember the end of infinity war. That didn't go great for him either.

As for Tony and being past their prime, both had ridiculously slower reflexes than they had previously. Thanos was snacking them around like rag dolls where both previously were able to keep up with his speed.


Thor got stabbed by Loki in the first Thor movie and in Avengers, and Thor still continued fighting without much issue afterwards. Thor got slashed in the face and stabbed multiple times against Hela, still kept fighting without issue.

None of the DC team have durability feats to match those. Considering that there are 3 bladed weapons here (4 if you count Cap's shield), those durability feats from Thor as pretty relevant. We know he can continue fighting despite taking a direct hit from WW's sword or Arthur's trident. I doubt any of the DC team can take a direct hit from Stormbreaker. They might not even be able to take a direct hit from Cap's shield if he's throwing it with Thor-level strength.

And no, I still don't see IM being any slower in Endgame. Thanos fought differently in Endgame. Way busier.


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You think the iron man who dodged a moon being thrown at him would let himself get smacked by mjonir?

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He didn't let himself. Thanos physically grabbed him and used him as a shield while Tony was unleashing his lightning-amped repulsor attack. And Tony didn't avoid all of the moon chunks either, as we all know.


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Why is Aquaman seen as the weak one on the DC side when hes vastly stronger than Wonder Woman going by Feats?

Even going by powerscaling, she didnt seem any more effective than him against Steppenwolf.

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WW did better against Superman


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