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Wanda vs. Quake

Wanda Maximoff vs. Daisy Johnson. MCU versions, latest versions of each. Both unarmed though Quake has her arm bracers to make sure she doesn't break her arms.

Fight in abandoned Sokovia. Who wins?


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Wanda Maximoff vs. Daisy Johnson. MCU versions, latest versions of each. Both unarmed though Quake has her arm bracers to make sure she doesn't break her arms.

Fight in abandoned Sokovia. Who wins?


I abandoned AOS a long time ago. But from the feats I recall from Daisy, Wanda is just on another level
But don't know how much of a buff she's gotten off lately.


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Daisy has improved a lot over the seasons. It's basically a quick draw at this point IMO, as both have enough raw power to potentially oneshot the other one.


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Daisy has improved a lot over the seasons. It's basically a quick draw at this point IMO, as both have enough raw power to potentially oneshot the other one.


Wanda's top feats are crushing an Infinity Stone, breaking Thanos' sword (which was able to break solid Vibranium) and toy Thanos.

Does Daisy have any to contest that?


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Wanda's top feats are crushing an Infinity Stone, breaking Thanos' sword (which was able to break solid Vibranium) and toy Thanos.

Does Daisy have any to contest that?


Well, she quite literally blasted Graviton from the ground to out of Earth's orbit, into the vacuum of space.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EagerInfamousFowl-mobile.mp4

They later show him floating around out in space, frozen over.

But it's not about raw power. Neither of these two are as tough as either Thanos or Graviton. So, they could drop each other with less than their maximum output. It's who can hit first. And Daisy has become a lot more skilled as well. She can simulate TK to a degree:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CluelessD...dale-mobile.mp4

And even create shields around objects:


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Well, she quite literally blasted Graviton from the ground to out of Earth's orbit, into the vacuum of space.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EagerInfamousFowl-mobile.mp4

They later show him floating around out in space, frozen over.

But it's not about raw power. Neither of these two are as tough as either Thanos or Graviton. So, they could drop each other with less than their maximum output. It's who can hit first. And Daisy has become a lot more skilled as well. She can simulate TK to a degree:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CluelessD...dale-mobile.mp4

And even create shields around objects:



Thanks for the intel.

As I said, I abandoned AOS, so I'm not awared of Daisy's evolution in the latest seasons. I was just curious to know how powerful she had gotten, so I can't really debate this thread.


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Thanks for the intel.

As I said, I abandoned AOS, so I'm not awared of Daisy's evolution in the latest seasons. I was just curious to know how powerful she had gotten, so I can't really debate this thread.


She's pretty powerful nowadays. Along with what I posted, she's also learned to use her powers in other creative ways, such as a kind of pseudo-flight, which she can use to blitz people:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BothFarLeafbird-mobile.mp4

But there is too much to cover, to be honest. She's accumulated a lot of feats over the last few seasons.


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On a somewhat random but also on topic note, I originally thought this feat was kinda PIS, because Quake's durability has never been close to this high. But I read somewhere that a writer confirmed she used her powers to protect herself from the impact (likely an adaptation of whatever she did on the bomb), which actually makes a lot more sense. But she doesn't do that kind of thing often though, so it's not something that seemingly comes easily to her.

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^ I do think Wanda has better shields, or at least an easier time at making shields, but I think Daisy has quicker reflexes and better fight training.


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It's hard to judge IMO. Because Wanda has reacted to things like Crossbones' bomb. And according to people who did calcs for the scene, her reflexes would have needed to be outright superhuman to react, regardless of whether she was reacting to the button press motion or the blast itself. And she has hung with people like Thanos and Proxima in close combat, so her powers allow her to compensate a lot for her lack of H2H skill and experience relative to most opponents. And we both know how good Daisy is in H2H/melee.

It's a good fight. Which is why it probably won't get that much attention. It's one of the sad ironies of KMC. Some of the closest matches get little in the way of responses, partly because people simply don't know who to actually back, so they don't post at all.


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