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Barry Allen vs. Wally West

Barry Allen vs. Wally West

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Jul 6th, 2018 03:12 PM

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I thought Wally is always portrayed as Barry's superior ?

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Wally.

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Barry. Far superior tactician.

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Wally, as he's actually more powerful

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Barry. Far superior tactician.

This is untrue.

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..lol its not even close to being disputable.

Jul 6th, 2018 03:23 PM

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Where has Barry demonstrated far superior tactical abilities?

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He's being an idiot. If you read a Barry Allen comic and a Wally West comic, the only thing you'd note is that the former has more of a scientific background, and the latter is more creative with his powers.

When Wally was the Flash, he use to really build Barry up in his head. Barry could do this, Barry could do that etc. Turns out, he already surpassed Barry, he was simply looking at him through the eyes of a kid at his hero.

Barry is ironically written as less sure, and more inexperienced than when he guest-starred here and there during Wally's tenure. Which makes sense from a writer's perspective.

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Wally definitely has the edge in speed

Barry is better at utilizing his speed. He is also a better tactician.

More importantly, Barry generates the speed force. I�m sure, he can find a way to cut Wally out of it. That�s just my guess

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Where has Barry demonstrated far superior tactical abilities?

didn�t they say that in DC nation?

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Wally definitely has the edge in speed

Barry is better at utilizing his speed. He is also a better tactician.

More importantly, Barry generates the speed force. I�m sure, he can find a way to cut Wally out of it. That�s just my guess

Wally is more skilled at using the speed force, IF we use DC nation as a guide.

He also can't be cut off from the Speed Force (Savitar tried).

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Wally also mainlines the SF. I never understood how Barry generating it when he runs makes sense but I guess it doesn't matter. Wally started turning into SF energy and breaking past the SF barrier while Barry couldn't keep up at that threshold.

Barry generating the SF isn't even an edge because it exists separate from Barry at different times.

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He's being an idiot. If you read a Barry Allen comic and a Wally West comic, the only thing you'd note is that the former has more of a scientific background, and the latter is more creative with his powers.

When Wally was the Flash, he use to really build Barry up in his head. Barry could do this, Barry could do that etc. Turns out, he already surpassed Barry, he was simply looking at him through the eyes of a kid at his hero.

Barry is ironically written as less sure, and more inexperienced than when he guest-starred here and there during Wally's tenure. Which makes sense from a writer's perspective.

Actuaaly, what I said is not up for dispute. Barry is a far better tactician than Wally. He's more creative more knowledgeable about physics and applications of speed, and more competent. Even a cursory reading establishes this. laughing out loud

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Wally is more skilled at using the speed force, IF we use DC nation as a guide.

He also can't be cut off from the Speed Force (Savitar tried).

Wally is more skilled. We know this but he is not a better tactician

Also, DC hunted that�s Barry�s connection to the speed force gives him some sort of edge. Most likely, it will be the ability to cut off other users

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Actuaaly, what I said is not up for dispute. Barry is a far better tactician than Wally. He's more creative more knowledgeable about physics and applications of speed, and more competent. Even a cursory reading establishes this.

He can't time travel without the cosmic treadmill. Wally can.

He can't speed steal. Wally can.

He can't do half the applications of speed that Wally can.

I ask again:. What showings of Barry has shown him to be more tactical?

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Wally also mainlines the SF. I never understood how Barry generating it when he runs makes sense but I guess it doesn't matter. Wally started turning into SF energy and breaking past the SF barrier while Barry couldn't keep up at that threshold.

Barry generating the SF isn't even an edge because it exists separate from Barry at different times.

It doesn�t have to make sense

Barry created the speed force..somehow
Before he did, the multiverse didn�t have a speed force? Probably some other energy? Idk it doesn�t make sense

What does make sense is barry>Wally.

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Wally is more skilled. We know this but he is not a better tactician

Also, DC hunted that�s Barry�s connection to the speed force gives him some sort of edge. Most likely, it will be the ability to cut off other users

Well, be that as it may, as far as we know, right now, Wally is the one who can speed steal. Not Barry.

Sure, the next issue of Flash might show Barry doing it. But so far, as of this post, he can't.

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He can't time travel without the cosmic treadmill. Wally can.

He can't speed steal. Wally can.

He can't do half the applications of speed that Wally can.

I ask again:. What showings of Barry has shown him to be more tactical?

Yes he can.. Easily. laughing out loud

wyd are you talking about?

Irrelevant. Versatlity is not tactical superiority.

Read his books. He's more creative knowledgeable and formidable.

But its a shame he's been nerfed for Wally Stans.

Jul 6th, 2018 04:26 PM

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Well, be that as it may, as far as we know, right now, Wally is the one who can speed steal. Not Barry.

Sure, the next issue of Flash might show Barry doing it. But so far, as of this post, he can't.

didn�t Barry speed steel against Godspeed?

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