Loki should win. As powerful as Wanda is, she is as much a victim to time as anybody else and has shown no capability of interfering with or negating time manipulation considering what happened with Vision twice. So Loki can freeze her in place and just drop her off at the end of time or something.
loki can pause wanda in time, but he can't time slip with anyone else or teleport as far as we know.
granted i would like to think that loki wins given that he rewove the entire ****ing multiverse, but put wanda in that specific place and i'd wager that she could do the same with her powers.
Current Loki is arguably the most powerful being in the entire MCU and is literally holding the multiverse together. He was also able to take Sylvie outside of time and space with him during their final conversation.
He doesn't need to do anything that largescale though. He can literally just freeze Wanda in time and then kill her while she's helpless.
Edit: Also, he does appear to be able to teleport across time and space, as he'd never been to Alcatraz, the jetski shop etc. before time slipping there for the first time. He was just time slipping back into his own body during the finale because he was essentially retracing his own choices and steps to see whether there was anything he could have done along the way to change things, finally settling on the point where he destroyed the Temporal Loom and reforged the timelines of the multiverse into the Yggdrasil-like structure. He was also interacting with another version of himself while time slipping in previous episodes, like pruning and calling out to himself at different points.
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OB even points out that Loki was inadvertently slipping through time and space, and as you said, he's gone to several places he never even knew existed, like Verity's(B15's real name) medical practice or B.D. Doug's lab. OB essentially says Loki is a better version of a Temp-Pad, meaning he possesses all of it's abilities on a better level.
Loki should definitely be one of the top 3 most powerful beings in the MCU at this point -- in the same tier as guys like Infinity Ultron and Strange Supreme.
Even when his new temporal powers were in their infancy, Loki was able to 'port to different points in time and space... And once he acclimated to his powers, he could stop local time all together(for apparently as long as he wanted.)
Then Loki soaked the temporal radiation leaking from the Loom(which is something only a Kang variant should have been capable of doing), then destroyed the Loom itself without deleting all the branches, then restored/re-energized said branches(keep in mind that each branch represents an entire universe), and ultimately forged all of the branches(the entire multiverse) into an entirely new variation of creation(Yggdrasil.) This series has made Loki unbelievably OP, and skyrocketed him into his "god of stories" version from the comics.
But anyway... Wanda has no displayed resistance to time-stoppage, afaik. Loki could freeze her with a finger flick, then either dump her in some null realm, or just chop her into pieces and scatter those pieces across the cosmos(the latter seems like a better option if she has access to the Darkhold here.)
Yeah, I've seen people on a bunch of sites refer to current MCU Loki as "God of Stories" Loki now.
Another aspect that hasn't been brought up yet is that he's had multiple centuries to refine his powers along with gaining a bunch of knowledge about space, time, quantum mechanics etc. from O.B. So, he's vastly more experienced relative to his pre-finale counterpart as well now.
And it's also a testament to the crazy amounts of willpower he developed that he literally did Groundhog Day on steroids for centuries and just kept going.
The only downside is that I kind of doubt we'll see this version of Loki active again in the MCU. We'll probably get another variant rocking up or something, but GoS Loki is just simply too powerful at this point, so they did a Strange Supreme on him and gave him what amounts to a permanent job (like Strange Supreme needing to watch over Infinity Zola and Killmonger for all eternity) that's going to occupy all of his time in order to keep him out of the plot going forward, needing to literally serve as a focal point for the entire multiverse to not fall apart.
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I suppose that quote from the head writer could also be interpreted differently, in that Loki isn't the only thing that can hold it together but that he's so powerful now that he doesn't require anything else to do so. Through his sheer power and will, he can keep the entire multiverse and its infinitely branching timelines from unraveling. Which is insanely powerful, however you choose to interpret the statement.
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Glad Loki finally got loaded with powers. But bummed hes essentially just another variant that we likely wont see again outside of maybe a cameo - like someone slipping through time and space and seeing him.
Also like how he basically has Hero’s powers from Heroes. On top of all his other powers.
IMO, God Loki sits above Infinity Ultron and Strange Supreme, at least in terms of power scale. IIRC, Infinity Ultron's best feat, in terms of scale, is punching Uatu across the multiverse which, according to WoG, turned it into a "messy universe soup". Which is definitely a very impressive feat, and Strange Supreme scales to him somewhat. However, in comparison, Loki took the MCU multiverse in its entirety and reshaped it according to his will. So, at least in terms of scale, God Loki sits above those two. However, I will note that Infinity Ultron and Strange Supreme (and even Uatu) have more feats of utilising their powers in actual combat.
Either way, those 4 are definitely top of the pile in the MCU at this point, and by some margin. After that, it's probably Celestials/Ego/Dormammu. Theoretically, full IG Thanos should also be up there, but he never came close to using the Stones to their full potential like Infinity Ultron did.
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Problem with Holding the multiverse together if it’s not very quantifiable in terms of strength. Like I doubt anyone thinks he was literally holding the weight of entire Universes.. Or do they?
So uncertain where his strength lies. But between his vastly more powerful magic (than before) and time/space control I can certainly see him being above Strange Supreme. Not sure about Infinity Ultron though.
Well, that's the weird thing. Because he was holding infinitely branching timelines. So, even if each timeline only weighs 1 gram, it's still 1 gram x infinity. But all that gets into rather abstract territory regarding physicals at this point. For example, God Loki now exists outside of time and space, so if you kill him at a certain point in time, will he even actually permanently die?
And things like What If, No Way Home, MoM and the existence of the multiverse is only possible because of the events of Sylvie killing HWR at the end of S1:
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Which is then maintained by Loki through doing the Yggdrasil thing at the end of S2. Also, Zola controlling Infinity Ultron was trapped by being frozen in time in a pocket dimension. I doubt that'd work on Loki at this point.
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The true feat is that GoS Loki was single-handedly responsible for energizing an infinite amount of universes/timelines, forge all of those infinite branches into an entirely new version of the multiverse, and now acts as the central force that holds it all together. It's an insane display of power that no one in the MCU comes close to touching at this point.
GoS Loki exists outside of time. He wasn't affected by the spaghettification of reality during his final convo with Mobius. He also stopped/rewound said spaghettification during his final convo with Sylvie. Given his newfound 'status', I think that Loki may have actually transcended the Infinity Stones in a way -- IOW, it's possible that the Stones might be effectively powerless against him at this point(for essentially the same reason they don't work inside the TVA.) Just a theory, though. /shrug
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