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MCU Namor vs. Nam-Ek

Round 1: MOS Nam-EK
Round 2: Flashpoint Nam-Ek from the Flash

who wins
Namor is at full power/with his spear


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Nam-Ek wrecks Mexicamor.


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Namek explodes... Oh wait.

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Dont see what stops Namor from impaling him.

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Nam ek is way faster and wayyyyyyy stronger.
He can one shot Namor if we go by feats.


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Nam ek is way faster and wayyyyyyy stronger.
He can one shot Namor if we go by feats.


What feats dictate that Namor would be one shotted? He isn't going to win the fight but he isnt getting one shotted either.


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What feats dictate that Namor would be one shotted? He isn't going to win the fight but he isnt getting one shotted either.
Lack of feats dictate it.

You look at one's strength feats vs ones durability feats.
If the strength feats are a magnitude or greater than one's durability feats then it is a one shot scenario.


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Lack of feats dictate it.

You look at one's strength feats vs ones durability feats.
If the strength feats are a magnitude or greater than one's durability feats then it is a one shot scenario.


So assumptions and perceptions, but no proof. Got it.

Dude was tossing and destroying Wakanda ships and flew Shuri into the ground from the sky. He isn't getting one shot by a C-lister kryptonian.


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So assumptions and perceptions, but no proof. Got it.

Dude was tossing and destroying Wakanda ships and flew Shuri into the ground from the sky. He isn't getting one shot by a C-lister kryptonian.


Swinging a ship on a circle with a spear before slinging it is clearly a superhuman feat.
Congratulations you proved he has superhuman strength.

But unfortunately that feat is well below 50 tons.

Nam has a feat above 10,000 tons.


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Which feats are you referring to for both? Show your working out for both assertions, so I can rip them apart as usual.


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Which feats are you referring to for both? Show your working out for both assertions, so I can rip them apart as usual.


laughing Yeah, the math that only works out in his world.


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Well, Namek squashed a fighter pilot, caught a flying MOS Superman and stopped his forward momentum by grabbing his cape, cratered the ground with him Hulk smash Loki style, unharmed by the explosion of an aircraft, no-sold a flying charge from Superman, got back up after being punched into a train hard enough to derail it from a mile away, threw a train engine a mile, etc. And his biggest feat, getting a temporary KO on Superman along with Faora. The same Superman who crashed into a mountain hard enough destroy half of its top side and was unharmed.

Namor's biggest strength feat is throwing a helicopter. His only chance is the spear which Namek could easily dodge with his superior speed


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I know H1's DC di¢kriding can be annoying, but I am with him here. Maybe not a one-shot, but Namek is stomping Namor into the ground.


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Yeah h1 is quite the retard but in this instance he's almost certainly right. Particularly because people are using Hulk feats from later on to upscale Abomination. By that same reasoning Namek was able to at least hold his own against Clark, who gets some very good feats later on.

Even with base movie Namek probably has the stronger argument though honestly. Being at least close if not equal to Clark in strength means he scales to a weakened Clark being able to overpower the gravitational pressure while weakened the World Engine was putting out, which was displacing millions of tons of water. He'd beat Namor to death in moments.


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Which feats are you referring to for both? Show your working out for both assertions, so I can rip them apart as usual.

Slinging the Wakanda ship can not be proven to be more than 50 tons of force.

I posted the Nam feat of him throwing the locomotive approximately a city block some years ago. I can try to find it. Or just redo it.


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Slinging the Wakanda ship can not be proven to be more than 50 tons of force.

I posted the Nam feat of him throwing the locomotive approximately a city block some years ago. I can try to find it. Or just redo it.


Why not?


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Yeah h1 is quite the retard but in this instance he's almost certainly right. Particularly because people are using Hulk feats from later on to upscale Abomination. By that same reasoning Namek was able to at least hold his own against Clark, who gets some very good feats later on.

Even with base movie Namek probably has the stronger argument though honestly. Being at least close if not equal to Clark in strength means he scales to a weakened Clark being able to overpower the gravitational pressure while weakened the World Engine was putting out, which was displacing millions of tons of water. He'd beat Namor to death in moments.


Nobody is arguing who would win the fight. A one shot victory though? That aint happening.


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Why not?


Maybe I'm wrong. I didn't attempt to calculate it.
Maybe the feat is between 100-500 tons.

How much mass does the ship have?
We can make some reasonable assumptions. 15-20 tons maybe?

He just slung it in a 3/4 circle in about a second.

We can attempt to calculate the centripetal force.

m = mass = 15 - 20 tons = 13600 - 18200 kg
r = Radius (about the center of mass) = 6-8 meters

He rotated 3/4 of a circle in approximately a sec.
So w = Angular velocity = (3pi/2)/s

So centripetal force is:
F = m * r * w^2

Lower estimate F = (13600) * (6) * (3pi/2)^2 = 1.81e6 N = 204 tons
Upper estimate F = (18200) * (8) * (3pi/2)^2 = 3.22e8 N = 362 tons

So between 204 and 362 tons of centripetal force?


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Maybe I'm wrong. I didn't attempt to calculate it.
Maybe the feat is between 100-500 tons.

How much mass does the ship have?
We can make some reasonable assumptions. 15-20 tons maybe?


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