1. The Plasma Caster is a game-changer once again, capable of dealing significant damage to the T-X.
2. The Ultimate Predator can simply rip the T-X's limbs off, bypassing its durability with sheer strength.
3. The UP easily shattered the wrist blades of a standard Predator, which are crafted from a metal far more durable than any human-made alloy. This demonstrates the UP's immense power and ability to overpower even highly resilient materials.
4. The UP is significantly faster and more agile than the T-X. It was able to effortlessly dodge a Plasma shot.
The T-X has a plasma canon of her own, which will easily one shot the Predator, while the T-X can take a few shots from his plasma caster. She easily tanked a direct hit from an RPG.
AHahahahahahaha rip off the T-X's arms? The T-X was much stronger than a T-850 which could stop a blast door with one arm. This is ludicrous.
Durability feats for the Predator's wrist blades? Because Alien blood melted them easily.
Ooooh it dodged a plasma shot. Those are so slow it took seconds for one to hit Blaine from the back.
The T-X's took out the T-850 with one shot and sent him flying dozens of feet back. The Predator's failed to kill Gary Busey. Regardless, the T-X could probably take a few shots, while the Predator gets one shotted.
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The plasma blast that the Ultimate Predator (UP) dodged was instantaneous. Referencing other examples is irrelevant. On the other hand, the T-X's plasma shot is so slow to execute that it's laughable - it would be scrap metal long before it could fire.
The T-X was damaged by a series of underwhelming attacks. The UP would rip its head off with ease.
The wrist blades of the Predator are more durable than any human-made metal. Even if you lowball the wrist blade's durability, compare it to the strongest alloy ever created by humans, and it's still superior.
The UP can stop the blast door from closing even more effortlessly. Neither a T-850 nor a T-X could replicate the feat of bashing a Predator’s head in with a single strike or effortlessly ripping it's head and spinal column out.
The UP is significantly stronger, faster, and is more agile.
No, it wasn't. The T-X wasn't damaged by anything until the end of the movie.
Feats that prove that the wrist blades are tougher than any Earth-made metal, please.
Prove that too. Those Cold War bunkers had blast doors that weigh 20+ tons and the T-850 held one up with one arm. The T-X is stronger. Predators die when a log falls on them.
### The Strength of the Wristblade
In the movie, a scientist analyzed the Predator's metal and found it to be far more advanced than man-made steel. Even with a lowball estimate, we can conclude the wristblade is at least as strong as steel.
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### Debunking the Blast Door Feat
The T-850 stopped the blast door while lying on its back, with its arms braced against the ground. In this position, only a fraction of weight of the door was stopped by its lifting strength; the rest relied on the compressive durability of the T-850's frame. Essentially, the door rested on its hands while its arms were locked against the ground and while the T-850 applied some upward force. If the T-850 had pushed the door upward, that would have demonstrated full lifting strength. However, since its durability contributed to stopping the door, this diminishes the validity of the feat as a pure strength display.
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### T-X's Questionable Durability and Strength
Regarding the Sikorsky Sea King helicopter (weighing approximately 7-8 tons), the T-X lacked the strength to lift it. Instead, she had to break her body in half to free herself. This highlights limitations in both her strength and structural durability.
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### T-850 is Likely as Strong or Stronger Than the T-X
There's no evidence suggesting the T-X is stronger than the T-850. In fact, the T-850 has more instances of overpowering the T-X than the other way around. One notable example is when the T-850 easily crushed the T-X's arm with its bare hand, which is strong evidence of superior strength.
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### The T-X's Insane Lack of Speed
The T-X is remarkably slow. On multiple occasions, the T-850 casually walked up to her, grabbed her, and did what he wanted without her ever responding at all. In contrast, the Ultimate Predator is extraordinarily faster and more agile than the T-850, capable of ripping her apart or damaging her with plasma blast before she could respond.
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### The Strength of the Ultimate Predator
The Ultimate Predator is significantly more powerful than a standard Predator - several times stronger and more durable, in fact. Rewatching both movies makes it clear that the T-X, with her slow reactions, wouldn't land a single blow. The UP could effortlessly rip off her arms and head or obliterate her before she even realized what was happening.
Oh, so no feats, just "a scientist said it's really strong". Gotcha.
Wrong. Re-watch the scene. The T-850 stopped it with one arm. He wasn't bracing it with his shoulder. Put the Predator there and it gets crushed.
Dumb argument. Do you understand how leverages work? I can bench press 190kg, but if you pin my legs under 190kg of metal, I can't move. Also, the T-X was damaged from the impact.
There's a whole fight scene between the T-X and T-850, h1. She was sending him across the room with a simple shove. The T-X literally had him by the balls used him as a battering ram. She also, broke his neck if you forgot. The T-850 himself said she was faster and more powerful than him.
She's not slow, she caught up to them when they were in that station wagon just by running.
Lol no. The Autism Predator get crushed easily. He has literally zeor impressive strength feats. Killing another Predator in H2H is not that impressive. Xenos do it, Danny Glover did it, a log did it, the jew from the Pianist did it.
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I refuse to accept that horrible Shane Black film as canon, but assuming we are....
The T-X should still get a comfortable win here. The plasma bolts are powerful, as we saw them destroy a house, but managed to survive enough truck and helicopter explosions to suggest that the Pred's plasma bolts will only stun it at best, whereas the Pred has no durability feats suggesting that it can withstand a T-X plasma bolt. Strengthwise, the T-X holding up a nuclear blast door definitely outclasses anything the Predator has shown in terms of it's hands or it's blades. The way I see the fight going, the Predator will probably knock down the TX will one plasma bolt, but when it goes to shoot another, the TX will rise up and hit it with it's own, which will kill the Predator. The best the Predator can do is slow it down with plasma bolts, a stall tactic that only last so long. Any CQB confrontation is an automatic Predator death sentence.
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EDIT: "The Predator's plasma bolts are powerful, as we saw them destroy a house, but the TX managed to survive enough truck and helicopter explosions..."
### T-850 is Likely as Strong or Stronger Than the T-X
In fact, the T-850 has MORE instances of overpowering the T-X than the other way around. One notable example is when the T-850 easily crushed the T-X's arm with its bare hand, which is strong evidence of superior strength.
Your argument for her being stronger is based on the few instances where she handled him. However, you're overlooking the numerous times he handled her, including the pivotal moment when he crushed her arm with his hand.
Then address this
### The T-X's Insane Lack of Speed
The T-X is remarkably slow. On multiple occasions, the T-850 casually walked up to her, grabbed her, and did what he wanted without her ever responding at all. In contrast, the Ultimate Predator is extraordinarily faster and more agile than the T-850, capable of ripping her apart or damaging her with plasma blast before she could respond.
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