i think that team 1 would win. iceman and jean grey have really powerful and formitable powers. cyclops is more powerful than his brother and would do more damage to the other team better than his brother.
i dont remember polaris messin with peoples blood flow back in her x-factor days. but if you want to use the more current characters, then team 1 wins badly. iceman is so overpowered anymore, he got juggernaut to admit iceman was more powerful. cyclops wasted away a huge section of trees and a sentinal by taking off his glasses. archangels blood is much more powerful at healing than wolverines and is really durable.
ROTFL, Cyclops taking off his visor etc.
That's his maximum.
Havok, blasted all the Eight Immortals which attacked the X-Men while they were searching for Xorn, knocked them out, damaged the X-Jet in the process and damaged the battlefield really bad, and it wasn't even his maximum.
Quicksilver can actually run in excess at supersonic speeds, far above Mach 5.Strong Guy is Class 70/80 and absorbing kinetic energy he'll become tougher and stronger.MM can take out both Jean and Cyke alone.He'll just overwhelm them with numbers, keeping them busy, same with Beast, he'll just keep them busy while Polaris blocks all of them and then stab them with metal spikes or just burn off the flesh from them.
Iceman will be out after one of Havok's blast.
And I'm talking of current IM and what he has showed to be able to do, not speculations or potentials.
You mean normal Jean or her tapping into PF?
Cause with her normal powers she isn't such a threat man.
Polaris can just emit a massive EMP Pulse that will send short circuit their brain synapses.
And if Havok decides he wants to clear the battlefield, he's gonna show Cyke who's the stronger brother?
When not tapping into her phoenix potential Jean is still an omega level telepath/telekinetic and was stated to be the second most powerful telepath in the world after Xavier. Jean is very much a threat.
Polaris would get dealt with psionically and the others would get taken down eventually. Jean can protect herself telekinetically while telepathically dealing with her opponents and Iceman wont be fazed by any of the oppositions powers in the slightest. He'll just reform and even in a shattered or vapour like state can still use his powers.
All the phoenix talk seems to have made people forget just how powerful Jean was before she officially became phoenix again
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Jean's force field are sufficiently strong to deal with Polari's force blasts or an Omni Beam which is made of all of EM Spectrum Wavelenghts?
Plus Jean isn't so impressive to me without phoenix force.
Exodus knocked her unconscious with a whim, he wasn't even fazed from her entering in her mind, he probably know she was gonna do that before her doing it.
Jean officially became Phoenix again towards the end of New Xmen. Jeans appeaarnces right before then have shown her to be a formidable opponent and she has time and time again been called the second most powerful telepath on the planet. The woman taught Cable the art of psychic warfare.
In a battle to the death as is the assumption with forum battles unless otherwise stated Jean will have telepathically dealt with Polaris long before Polaris has managed to batter down her shields.
Jean's breached both Magneto and Juggernaut's helmets with no assistance from the PF.
As far as MM is concerned, whatever happens to him before he replicates himself is reproduced in the other bodies, right? He's an easy one to take down. Or better yet, he would provide an almost inexhaustible source of cannon fodder once Jean got a hold of him. Quicksilver's a non factor if the fight is aerial.
Havok isn't the leader or tactician that Cyclops is. The original X-Factor also has a distinct advantage in that they've been together longer than any other X-team. Polaris really is the only threat, and while she's great, she's no Magneto.
Well, Marvel has constantly stated that Rachel inherited her mother's abilities. The new handbook states that she can travel at light speed, and that's non-Phoenix Rachel. I don't see why the person from whom she inherited those abilities wouldn't be able to do the same.
There is a weakness with Jean that seems to be ignored sometimes. If I remember this correctly, the first time she used her powers was to connect with a childhood friend who was dying and it messed her up pretty good. Now I imagine that she has grown a lot since then, but what would be the effect of having people she loves and cares about be in pain and/or dying near her?
With Team 2 having Polaris, Havoc, and Strong Guy they could at least take out some memebers of Team 1 once the fighting starts, so would Jean be as effective or not?
(I assume this is a fight to the death, unlike most fights in the comic books were the good guy rarely get injured or die)
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Being connected with your dying best friend at such a tender age would affect anyone badly. Its not a weakness specific to Jean im afraid. As a team the Xmen have seen many a good friend die. They deal with it it goes along with the work. They are all friends here so all of them would be affected by the deaths of any of the people present. Its a sign of a compassionate human. It is not a specific weakness belonging to any one individual.
I was only wondering if her being such a powerful telepath, would having one member of her team throw her off any? i.e. could she keep up her force field after seeing Cyclops get a metal spike through his chest?
I don't think that she personally has such a weakness more than anyother one, just if her powers would make her more vulnerable to distractions that deaths on her team would cause
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Theres a reason why shes called the second most powerful telepath on earth. Also her telekinesis doesnt just have to protect herself. It could provide sufficient protection for all of those who cant protect themselves. Polaris is the only real threat. Once shes dealt with it wont be long before the others are dealt with. This is bloodlust after all. With the exception of Polaris none of the opposition can harm Iceman, giving him free rein in freezing all the moisture in their bodies.
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