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Janus Marius
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Arrow PT Sith versus PT Jedi

Sidious' plan had worked... Young Skywalker was now following the dark path of the Sith, with the soon-to-be-emperor as his master. Dooku, in a moment of inspiration, had stunned young Skywalker in the fight on the Invisible Hand. With the ship itself nearly destroyed in the space battle, Palpatine, Dooku, and Grievous had stole away with the unconscious Skywalker, leaving Obi-Wan to escape by the skin of his teeth. Reacting to the sudden tremor in the Force, as Senator Amidala was murdered along with several others in the surprise attack by General Grievous. The droid army commander himself died in the Battle of Utapau, and the two Sith and their new acolyte escaped to the deserts of Korriban, where they erected a secret base within the ruins of a Sith academy.

However, Jocasta Nu was instrumental in the tracking of the Sith, and masters Yoda, Windu, and Kenobi arrived on Korriban to confront the new threat...

Combatants:

-Sidious is the same as he is depicted in ROTS. His priority target is Yoda, though he will not miss an opportunity to slay a lesser opponent should it arise. Since the confrontation is in the center room of the academy, there is debris for the Sith to utilize, and perhaps a pillar if he's lucky, but there is no place for him to hide. Sidious, not much of a team player, will nonetheless protect Anakin if and when he can due to Anakin being the product of Plagues and Sidious' midi-chlorian manipulation and thus, the legacy of the Sith.

-Dooku is the same as depicted in ROTS, only more dedicated to the fight, not merely playing with the opponent as he was in-movie. His priority opponent would be Mace Windu, since the two have a bit of a grudge. Dooku is not against challenging Yoda should the opportunity arise, but he is loathe to truly fight the wizened old master, and is secretly insecure of his powers against Yoda.

-Anakin is no different then we see him in ROTS. He does not possess any additional Sith skills, since he has not had the time to study true Sith lore. He believes that Obi-Wan abandoned him and left Padme to die, thus making his former master his priority target. However, Anakin will protect Sidious since the sith lord has promised to clone Padme in exchange for the elimination of a 'corrupt Jedi Order and restoration of balance in the galaxy'. Anakin has no love for Dooku and will not neccessarily go out of his way to help the older former jedi.

-Yoda is as we see in ROTS. His priority is the dangerous Sidious, although he is resolved that young Skywalker be redeemed and, if possible, Dooku. Thus he will engage either of those two if needed, but will try not to land a killing blow. Yoda will defend Obi-Wan and Mace equally if needed.

-Mace Windu is as we see in ROTS, and his priority opponent will be Count Dooku. While Mace is not opposed to laying the smack down on Sidious or Anakin (And with Dooku and Sidious he is willing to kill) his priority target will remain Dooku unless Yoda has complications. Mace Windu will help his comrades, though he leans towards helping Obi-Wan more due to the younger master's age.

-Obi-Wan is the ROTS ninja we all know and love. His priority target is Anakin, since he knows he cannot singularly take Sidious or Dooku. Obi-Wan will fight Dooku and Sidious to the death, particularly if another falls, but he still has some hope for redeeming Anakin. Thus, he will hold back to a certain extent, trying not to kill the Jedi but talk him back to the light. However, if it becomes apparent that such measures will not work, he has been told by both Windu and Yoda to end Skywalker's life... The redemption of one is not worth the cost of the Sith destroying the Order.

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Darth_Glentract
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I like this. Great idea. I think the Jedi would win. For a while, I think they would fight as you said, but I think Mace and Yoda would eventually change targets. Yoda would go after and eventually slay Dooku, while Mace would go after Palps, since I think he has a special power against Palpatine because Vapaad calls upon the darkside, making it easier for Mace to predict Sidious' moves since I think Sidious clouds the light(why those three Jedi were killed so fast, they had no experince at seeing people as clouded in the darkside as Sidious. Obi-wan would eventually turn or kill Anakin, probably turn him, since he doesnt have the extra crimes like destroying the Jedi Temple(or does he).


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Janus Marius
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He doesn't. Anakin's relatively new to the darkside at this point, he's still innocent if you don't count the Sand people butchering.

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Darth_Glentract
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Then he could probably come back pretty fast since it was the Temple Massacre and killing Mace Windu that cemented his fall.


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Janus Marius
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I agree, but remember he was led to believe that the council betrayed him, especially Obi-wan. Also, Padme was killed, and it was blamed on the Order's inaction.

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Janus Marius
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Also, I invite people to write out a short story of how this battle might go. That way, we can get a feel for the reasoning you use (depending on who you root for, etc.) based on the story you have written. Of course, if you elect not to write a story answer, that's perfectly acceptable as well.

And feel free to ask questions regarding the scenario.

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Very nice idea. Anakin and Obi-Wan is the closest fight in the SW Universe in my opinion, seeing as how they practice nigh opposing forms and know eachother so well. I could try a story. . .

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Janus Marius
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Please do...

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Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Please do...


Your stories are amazing.


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Janus Marius
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I'm gonna put forth my own version maybe tomorrow...

And thanks

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I'll definitely read both of your stories... smokin'


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The sith win, sidious and yoda would at best for yoda be a stalemate though personally I believe sidious would win in the end. Dooku beats mace as hes has already beaten him before with his weaker self. Obi wan and anakin once again a very close match but since this is a straight up fight and no resourcefulness obi wan would lose. Even if Obi beat anakin again dooku would be done with his match with mindu about the same time and then would slaughter obi and help sidious with yoda.

If mace and yoda switched the sith would still win, yoda would beat dooku after a long fight but sidious would easily kill mace because he would no longer be toying with him then sidious would proceed to kill obi wan then sidious and anakin would team up against yoda.

Windu is overestimated, after reading shatterpoint it further proves the point for me, he loses to his padawan depa who he even says displays swordmanship that outmatches his own and loses to vastor. Mace kills vastor in the end but through trickery because mace says himself on his best day he would still not be able to defeat vastor in a straight up fight. The fact that mace was manipulated by palpatine in ROTS is all the more obvious now, no way in hell depa or vastor is stronger than palps.

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Originally posted by Great Vengeance
The sith win, sidious and yoda would at best for yoda be a stalemate though personally I believe sidious would win in the end. Dooku beats mace as hes has already beaten him before with his weaker self. Obi wan and anakin once again a very close match but since this is a straight up fight and no resourcefulness obi wan would lose. Even if Obi beat anakin again dooku would be done with his match with mindu about the same time and then would slaughter obi and help sidious with yoda.

If mace and yoda switched the sith would still win, yoda would beat dooku after a long fight but sidious would easily kill mace because he would no longer be toying with him then sidious would proceed to kill obi wan then sidious and anakin would team up against yoda.

Windu is overestimated, after reading shatterpoint it further proves the point for me, he loses to his padawan depa who he even says displays swordmanship that outmatches his own and loses to vastor. Mace kills vastor in the end but through trickery because mace says himself on his best day he would still not be able to defeat vastor in a straight up fight. The fact that mace was manipulated by palpatine in ROTS is all the more obvious now, no way in hell depa or vastor is stronger than palps.


no

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Janus Marius
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Depa is not a padawan, she's a full blown Jedi master... Read the book again.

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Depa is not a padawan, she's a full blown Jedi master... Read the book again.


Never said she was a padawan I just said she was maces padawan, I didnt intend that to be an argument against her.

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And she didn't beat him, he didn't want to fight her. Oh yeah; he wasn't just any Master. She was on the Council too, and a force to be reckoned with.

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Janus Marius
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Well, there is one thing important to consider in Shatterpoint... Mace Windu has to walk a fine line, balancing himself or risk losing his mind like Depa on the Korun planet. It's not like he can just delve into Vaapad and kill the apprentice he is trying to save and kill a Force user considering he was outnumbered by the force user's goons, the goons themselves Korun force users.

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Originally posted by Darth Windu
no


Really Darth Windu I think I deserve more than a smiley.

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Mace says he could not beat vastor on his best days thats a direct quote from the book.

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