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Speed vs Time

KMC is filled with people that is excellent with numbers. Can someone answer this for me (Bada and PR...keep this open for a bit). Let's say Surfer decided to destroy countless of planets and he succeeded...He went planet by planet and destroyed each and every last one of them in two Galaxies, including the stars as well. How fast would that make Surfer if you had to guess?


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I'm no mathematician but that depends on his energy output and the size of the galaxies. Not sure how long it would take him to blow up a star.


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KMC is filled with people that is excellent with numbers. Can someone answer this for me (Bada and PR...keep this open for a bit). Let's say Surfer decided to destroy countless of planets and he succeeded...He went planet by planet and destroyed each and every last one of them in two Galaxies, including the stars as well. How fast would that make Surfer if you had to guess?


Four.


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Forty Two.


FTFY


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In seriousness: Trying to do actual math on this is absurd. We might as well be filling in variables of the Drake Equation.

The correct answer is "we don't know." The other correct answer is "ludicrous speed."


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Figure a trillion stars/planets in each galaxy. They're one-shot destroyed, plus flight time (*does mental calculations*)...

He'd be Flash-fast. cool


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The correct answer is 312.5 Hercs give or take.

and as mentioned before, there are too many variables and you are assuming Silver Surfer can destroy suns (cause I have not seen it, I HEAR about it, but never seen it), but if He were capable of doing it and besides that at great speed, then He will be Flash fast.

But the best answer is the one you can measure in "Hercs" big grin


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LOL...you all get on my last nerve.


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KMC is filled with people that is excellent with numbers. Can someone answer this for me (Bada and PR...keep this open for a bit). Let's say Surfer decided to destroy countless of planets and he succeeded...He went planet by planet and destroyed each and every last one of them in two Galaxies, including the stars as well. How fast would that make Surfer if you had to guess?
It depends on how fast he traveled.

You didn't even say how long it took him to do such a thing.


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It depends on how fast he traveled.

You didn't even say how long it took him to do such a thing.


I said a few yrs. The few yrs is up to you.


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Okay...assuming 10 trillion actions to complete (travel, find target, blow it up; travel, find target, blow it up...). Surfer does this in 5 years. That means he's doing roughly 63,000 actions per second. On average, he's covering 100s-1000s of lightyears and destroying 1000s-10,000s of planets and stars every second for five years.

Momma mia. That's some Surfer.


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One sun goes nova at the same time surfer arrives. He's ****ity ****ed. I really want H1 to hit this thread though :P


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LOL...you all get on my last nerve.


We're not trying to troll. It's an unanswerable question, at least without specialized knowledge that none of us have access to. Anyone claiming otherwise is incredibly wrong.


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Okay...assuming 10 trillion actions to complete (travel, find target, blow it up; travel, find target, blow it up...). Surfer does this in 5 years. That means he's doing roughly 63,000 actions per second. On average, he's covering 100s-1000s of lightyears and destroying 1000s-10,000s of planets and stars every second for five years.

Momma mia. That's some Surfer.


@Digi

He did pretty good.


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We're not trying to troll. It's an unanswerable question, at least without specialized knowledge that none of us have access to. Anyone claiming otherwise is incredibly wrong.


His pride is at stake here, so he needs you all to give some crazy exact statement calculation


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@Digi

He did pretty good.


If you say so. Like I said, Drake's Equation at least accounts for all the variables, so all you have to do is plug in fake numbers. Here all we have are the fake numbers, so it's orders of magnitude less exact than an already wildly inexact analogous question.


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I would say he'd have to be traveling at SENTRY speed


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Originally posted by carver9
KMC is filled with people that is excellent with numbers. Can someone answer this for me (Bada and PR...keep this open for a bit). Let's say Surfer decided to destroy countless of planets and he succeeded...He went planet by planet and destroyed each and every last one of them in two Galaxies, including the stars as well. How fast would that make Surfer if you had to guess?



Assuming there're only two star systems in each galaxy, each with 2 planets, and they're close enough to the stars that causing each star to go supernova triggers a chain reaction....

And assuming he took 10 years to do this...

It makes him incredibly slow.


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Surfer doesn't (or at least for the last few decades hasn't) use actual speed. His travel through space is always depicted as warp. Warp is a bending of space to make two point closer rather than making one faster to cover the distance. Using the Einstein Rosen bridge theory it's postulated that gravity and electromagnetics both have an effect of bending or warping time and space. The analogy used to describe it most often is to consider the universe to be a piece of paper and two point at opposite ends (dots on the paper) the start and ending point. Instead of traveling in a straight line warp is using a pencil to pierce the paper at one dot and bend it on itself till that dot touches the other and you come out it. Essentially you travel a vast distance in very little time without actually moving any distance.

Here is an example
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...99612206jx3.jpg
Essentially he could be anywhere in an instant, but it's not speed.

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Not all figures were wild estimations. There are an estimated 200 to 400 billion stars in our galaxy. This number has been around for decades (may prove to be wrong later, but this is the range astronomers generally consider). More recent figures (based on our planet-finding via star wobbling/periodic dimming) suggest at least several billion Earthlike worlds alone. Systems so far discovered have at least one planet, on average. So I figured (a very conservative estimate) one planet per star.

Even if our galaxy has "only" 250 billion stars, that's a total of 500 billion stars/planets just in our galaxy alone, again, not so wild an estimate, given what we've been finding out there. With two galaxies: we now have a trillion celestial bodies to explode.

Each detonation I'm calling an "action." So we have at least a trillion actions to be performed, within a 5-year period. 5 years is roughly 158 million seconds. The math here is straightforward for #actions/second.

Now come the wild estimations. Each travel period from star system to star system, from planet to planet, I'm also calling an "action", and so now there would be a ratio of time-spent-traveling to time-spent-blowing-things-up. You can make this ratio whatever you want, but let's say this raises the number of "actions" needing to be done to 10 trillion. Again, the math is straightforward, involving a mix of conservative figures with liberal/wild estimates.

Thing is, even if I'm off by a factor of 1000 (in one direction), Surfer is till traveling to and blowing up dozens of stars/planets per second: still a feat to make any other herald-level character (*coughthorcough*) blanche. If I'm off by 1000 in the other direction (he's destroying millions/second), then even Galactus would go uh-oh...

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