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Ultimate Colossus vs 616 Juggernaut
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Ultimate Colossus 9 32.14%
616 Juggernaut 17 60.71%
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Ultimate Colossus vs 616 Juggernaut
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Ultimate Colossus vs 616 Juggernaut

The man of steel vs te unstopable force

fight takes place in a New York bar

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616 Juggernaut.

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Classic wins, current loses.


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I suspect the fight would be similar to the Hulk/Juggernaut fight in Hulk #172.

Juggie wins. Nobody can beat him in a brawl/straight up fight.


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I think this would be a good fight, 616 Colossus did a good job vs Juggernaut, and it seems that Ultimate Colossus is stronger than his 616 counterpart so I think this would be a good fight. Don't forget Ultimate Colossus has beaten Thor, Ironman, and Magneto, which are some strong forces in the Ultimate Universe.


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Juggernaut has lost a fight, he was nocked out in one punch, and was actually injured. The fight was Onslaught vs Juggernaut, Juggernaut was knocked from Canada, to New Jersey.


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And Ultimate Colossus is comparable to Onslaught?


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No but it was one punch, and he lost the fight I was just saying that Juggernaut could lose a fight.


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Juggernaut has lost a fight, he was nocked out in one punch, and was actually injured. The fight was Onslaught vs Juggernaut, Juggernaut was knocked from Canada, to New Jersey.


Do you have a scan of this punch? No. Wanna know why? First of all the confrontation happened off panel they never showed that fight. Second Juggernaut was k.o ed for all of 5 seconds, but third and most importantly Onlsaught didn't exist phsyically until Prof X ran into X-Man that came after Juggernaut landed in New Jersey. So if Onlsaught couldn't punch juggernaut until about a week later than the actual event, it follows that the attack was psionic.

Also Ult colossus lost to Ult Juggeranut before he even got the gem, so I think its fair to say that classic Juggernaut walks all over him. Also even current Juggernaut is monsterously strong and durable so I don't even know if Ult Colossu can beat him.

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I suspect the fight would be similar to the Hulk/Juggernaut fight in Hulk #172.

Juggie wins. Nobody can beat him in a brawl/straight up fight.
You mean the fight where the last scene was hulk ripping jugs helmet off and throwing him into a mountain, jugs didn't win, jugs had the slight advantage until hulk got serious...


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You mean the fight where the last scene was hulk ripping jugs helmet off and throwing him into a mountain, jugs didn't win, jugs had the slight advantage until hulk got serious...


No the last scene was Juggernaut getting up unharmed as usual the the X-Men showing up out of now where and Jean and Zavier taking him out psionically cause Hulk couln't do it himself.

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No the last scene was Juggernaut getting up unharmed as usual the the X-Men showing up out of now where and Jean and Zavier taking him out psionically cause Hulk couln't do it himself.
How did i know someone was gunna say that? What i am trying to say is that jugs didn't beat hulk and the last blow was landed by hulk...jugs had the slight advantage until hulk got mad...if the fight went on hulk would have made jugs his personal punching bag...


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Onslaught did punch Juggernaut, just check answers.com. Ultimate Juggernaut never beat Ultimate Colossus because they never had a fight we really havn't seen what Ultimate Juggernaut can do, but I think we will.


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Onslaught did punch Juggernaut, just check answers.com. Ultimate Juggernaut never beat Ultimate Colossus because they never had a fight we really havn't seen what Ultimate Juggernaut can do, but I think we will.


Why would I need to check answers.com when I can just check the comics? No where in that comic did we see Onlsaught punch Juggernaut. Infact there was no fight at all, all we saw was Juggs landing in Jersey claiming that Onlaught is coming. Since Onlaught couln't manifest physically at the time, (having not run into Nate Grey yet) how could Onlaught have punched him?

Ult Juggernaut did beat colossus. Did your read the weapon x arc of Ult Xmen? When Stryker was colecting the X-Men he sent Juggernaut after Colossus. He beat him the same way Onslaught beat Juggernaut the first time, totatly off panel. All you see is Juggeranut holding up an ucnoncious Colosuss by the rags of his shirt, saying "I got him".

So if you say that Juggs beating Ult. Colosu is Bs because they didn't show the fight then I say Onlaught punching Juggs is B.S for the same reason.

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at the time onslaught puched juggernaut he was a being comprised of psonic energy not a physical body so the punch was itself a psonic attack!

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at the time onslaught puched juggernaut he was a being comprised of psonic energy not a physical body so the punch was itself a psonic attack!


Ding! Ding! Ding!

Someone give this man a cookie!

Not to mention he alos had Magneto's powers (which porbably doens't need a body) so after weakening him with a psionic attack Onlaught's used his magnetic powers to toss Juggs.

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What is Ultimate Colossus compared to Onslaught again?


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Ok sorry my fault I was wrong, I still think Ultimate Colossus wuld give Juggernaut a good fight I mean the 616 Colossus gave Juggs a good fight, and Ultimate Colossus is clearly stronger than his 616 counterpart so I think this would be a good fight.


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Ok sorry my fault I was wrong, I still think Ultimate Colossus wuld give Juggernaut a good fight I mean the 616 Colossus gave Juggs a good fight, and Ultimate Colossus is clearly stronger than his 616 counterpart so I think this would be a good fight.
Your right. This would be a good battle considering how 616 Colosus faired against Juggs.

Ult. Colossus will knock him around but Juggy will outlast him.


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