Just bump the other one if you want to make a point. Or read it, as the very strategy has been gone over many, many times.
(Surfer is WAY the hell faster than Supes. The fight lasts all of a millisecond. Before Superman can react, Surfer has him analyzed via cosmic awareness and dead via a blast of kryptonite radiation)
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You know whats funny about your post Darth Kal?? Thats exactly what current DC would have Surfer do if they wrote the fight. Have him follow in the footsteps of MM and other high powered characters that can take a possible majority over Superman. Forget most if not all their notable powers and engage the Man of Steel in the manner where he's most likely to dominate. Surfer and MM not using their powers wisely is the epitome of PIS. And barring that icky comic virus, Superman should lose to either very quickly.
I have to somewhat agree that Superman would put a one million punch pounding on the Surfer, but only if the Surfer didn't know that Superman's powers were derived from the sun... if he did know this, he would be able to reduce Supermans level of strength in seconds, gaining the upper hand, and knocking him out. The reason I said that Superman could punch him out, is because I saw the Runner do the same.... I know that the Runner was messing with the Surfers brain in that fight, but Superman would make up for the lack of emotional manipulation with sheer strength... I'm not saying that this fight would be over in moments, but I see an unprepped Surfer getting beaten more times than not... if he only knew....
Superman pwns. If Spider-man can dodge lasers, Superman can dodge SS's blasts. His strength is nearly the same as Silver Surfer. So he gets near SS and fights him.
Superman does pwn in a battle of brutestrength with most badguys. And he's stronger than Surfer initially, but Surfer can easily amp his strength with the ambient energy of the universe. So thats a dud. Surfer is too Superman what superman is to Hulk in speed. That much faster. He also has cosmic awareness, which will allow him to scan superman and see his biology and what makes him tick. He is a decent telepath and can erect immensely powerful forcefields. He can even imprison people in his board. Anything you've seen done by a bad guy in comics, Surfer can probably do to some degree. Like i said before. The only way Superman wins this is if Surfer suddenly emulates Jonn and forgets most of his powerset excluding the whole punch and repeat technique. Well written, a curbstomp of ugly proportions.
SS has nanosecond reaction times, so beating him in h2h will be difficult. Supes most likely wins in h2h, but in a fight with all their powers allowed, SS wins. If Supes had Pre-Crisis powers, then I would give him the win because he's not as vulnerable to k-nite or red sun light like he used to be.
What exactly is T-Vo?? I've seen it called mental reality warping where the one with the most willpower wins......If thats the case, then thats so obviously geared towards superman's strengths that it's sickening. And the writer who thought of it should be fired.
Honestly, I can't really explain it, but what you said is right. Supes has uber will power (He resisted sleeping with Wonder Woman for 1000 years). If he used that on SS, he would wipe the floor with him.
It's astral projection given a fancy word. i don't know if it can reality warp too but from what i've seen, it seemed more appopriately as illusions in the physical plane.
lol should i even say anything i mean since this is full potential supes shouldnt we use red sun supes since he can travel faster then the speed of thought is that faster then light?