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Heralds v JLA PtII

the previous heralds v jla thread was hardly what i'd call fair. green arrow? blink

well, the jla has a LOT more to offer than that particular lineup. let's revise, shall we . . .

nova
firelord
morg
terrax
silver surfer

v

Team A

orion
dr. fate
captain marvel (classic)
green lantern (hal)
j'onzz

and one more variation on the jla:

heralds

v

Team B

firestorm (ronnie)
zatanna
triumph
zauriel
superman

do either jla teams win against the 'all mighty' herald team??


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no

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team a wins at least 5 of 10. team b it's unlikely you know well enough to fairly say.


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Team A only because of Dr. Fate and Hal win 4/10


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actually I think the JLA can take the majority in both if they are given say 5 minutes heads up to at least get ready for the speed.

Otherwise human durability is the downfall.

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who on the heralds will blitz? ss, but the ring can counter that blitz. terrax, morg, nova and fl have never been shown to blitz. once it gets down to pure fighting, either jla team can win in a number of ways. heralds could still do it. airwalker and nova are the weakest links though. fl is all right but ss and morg are the big threats here. they can be held of long enough for help to arrive though.


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Leo, the herald teams are somewhat shitty and you know it.................. Nova? She's like the Aquaman of heralds. Trade her for stardust and we get a battle. Though Terrax with his axe should be able to cleave most of the other teams in two.

And this is my problem with rumbles/fights. Why must it come down to hth?? We all know thats DCs strong point, and not Marvels. Can any battle trump the almighty punch??


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Leo, the herald teams are somewhat shitty and you know it.................. Nova? She's like the Aquaman of heralds. Trade her for stardust and we get a battle. Though Terrax with his axe should be able to cleave most of the other teams in two.

And this is my problem with rumbles/fights. Why must it come down to hth?? We all know thats DCs strong point, and not Marvels. Can any battle trump the almighty punch??


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where were you and your complaints when the heralds fought a jla team with green arrow on it?!

and who says it would come to h2h? confused with guys like ss, fate and green lantern it would be as much an energy battle as h2h. though terrax and morg genrally engage h2h as often as anyone on the dc would.

and i just used the heralds that were given in the previous thread when everyone said the heralds would crush the jla. hell, there's a whole thread -- 100s of posts long -- debating whether ss alone could wipe out the jla!

i don't see the teams being all that uneven at all. team a takes majority imo, but heralds could most certainly win. could it be that someone is actually underestimating the heralds 'round here . . .? eek!


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Heralds written to what they are supposed to represent would DESTROY JLA. They are not only given the power cosmic but the ability to understand how to use it effectively, writters forget that last partsmile

I think without a few minutes prep and heralds at full power and use would destroy the JLA, however that tends to not be the case. JLA should win minus human durablity.

If written to their power set however the heralds once again would destroy the JLA.

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Team A takes the majority. Soleran, I respect your opinion, but no offense you don't know what Dr. Fate is capable of. He is one powerful SOB. Team B, that's a toughie. If the heralds don't take out Zatanna within the first few seconds, then they are pretty much f*cked. Team A wins the majority, as for the second fight, it could really go either way.


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Re: Heralds v JLA PtII

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Originally posted by leonidas
the previous heralds v jla thread was hardly what i'd call fair. green arrow? blink

well, the jla has a LOT more to offer than that particular lineup. let's revise, shall we . . .

nova
firelord
morg
terrax
silver surfer

v

Team A

orion
dr. fate
captain marvel (classic)
green lantern (hal)
j'onzz

and one more variation on the jla:

heralds

v

Team B

firestorm (ronnie)
zatanna
triumph
zauriel
superman

do either jla teams win against the 'all mighty' herald team??


Zatanna - "sdlareh pots"

Heralds are frozen in place. Zauriel chops em in half.

Zatanna, PIS in the making.


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you keep saying human durability sol . . . where do you see that? fate ahs uber-strange-like shields. j'onzz, WAYYYY above human. cm, WAYYYYYYYY above human. orion, so far above human the light from human durability takes 1000 years to reach him. and gl, auto-shields that can stop pretty well anything.

human durability? blink

and the only one versatile enough to really be used in the way you were speaking is ss. nova and fl use stellar energy -- a far cry from ss's ability to control almost any form of energy. morg is a brawler with cosmic power and terrax is similar -- less cosmic power but with earth control. ss has great versatility. the others aren't nearly as versatile as he is.

edit: yeah, i figured zatanna was capable of stopping them but could someone save her from a blitz . . .?


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Re: Re: Heralds v JLA PtII

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Zatanna - "sdlareh pots"

Heralds are frozen in place. Zauriel chops em in half.

Zatanna, PIS in the making.



Yup if it weren't for human durability and speed I would agree, speed blitz, dead team.

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Heralds have never been known for speed blitz.
Sorry, but that's forum speculation.


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Re: Re: Re: Heralds v JLA PtII

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Yup if it weren't for human durability and speed I would agree, speed blitz, dead team.


Read leo's post. wink


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Yup if it weren't for human durability and speed I would agree, speed blitz, dead team.


human durability?? see my previous post . . . sad


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SS hassmile And guess what you only need one.


Also I might add that I said if the heralds were written the way their power was infused with them. Writers make them ass, even I can think of better ways to use their powers. Essentially the heralds can give everyone the mass of a star and have them collapse on themselves.

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Read leo's post. wink


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SS hassmile And guess what you only need one.


Out of decades of continuity, SS hasn't shown speed blitzes.

For all their power, heralds almost always end up H2H.

There is no denying it.


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