Thanos with 5 Cosmic Containment Units vs The Living Tribunal...
The Magus, using tech to manipulate the power of 5 CCU's, was able to come "just short" of the power of the Infinity Gauntlet...
Thanos, however, was seemingly able to achieve more with a lone CCU than the Magus could with 5; with a lone CCU, Thanos managed to replace Eternity with himself...
In other words, with a lone CCU, he was able to match the performance of the full Infinity Gauntlet...
Now if Thanos's will is strong enough to get that much out of a CCU, imagine what he could do with 5...
With 5 CCU's, can Thanos (with his very powerful will) defeat The Living Tribunal?
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Last edited by TheLordofMurder on Jan 7th, 2012 at 02:42 PM
I received a PM from the thread starter explaining this thread. Let's see how this thread goes. I thought it was one sided. Maybe there are some people who disagree.
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LT ... smashes ... "god" in a box.
The 616 Infinity Gauntlet is the supreme power beneath the LT.
Only an anomaly of ridiculous power like Protege or Scathan
can possibly challenge and/or defeat the IG in the hands of Thanos.
I'd put the CCUs somewhere right below the IG,
where the hierarchy gets fuzzy since there's several characters one could argue for.
The CCU's top feat is no doubt incredible,
but there are others that share similar and greater feats that are below the LT.
Bottom line:
The Cosmic Egg had 30 CCUs,
and it was being willed via a collective consciousness that spanned the milky way galaxy,
including the heroes/villains/alien races etc. and also coupled with
the Goddess' own consciousness who was running the show.
"just short" and yet what took five cosmic cubes hours to do... The ig did in an instant... I wouldn't say that's an example of just short.
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"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
More importantly it was an INCOMPLETE IG too, remember it was missing the Reality Gem! IG FTW!
But back on topic, 5 CCUs or 5 MILLION CCUs makes no difference. It was stated on panel that the LT PERMITS the formation of CCUs by allowing energy from the Beyonders universe to leak into 616 reality to form one. At any time he puts his foot down and says enough's enough, there goes that. You have 5 (or 5 MILLION) powerless CCUs vs the power of the Living Tribunal.
LT stomps.
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It was stated in Fantastic Four Annual 27 (the one with the Beyonder/MM throw down). I can post scans if you want. But Mr. M already did in another thread. Give me a sec and I'll find it.
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Also Eternity/Infinity & Lord Chaos/Master Order partake in the agreement.
The BeyonderS are in a Universe outside of Eternity cause there's no time in it,
and it's so beyond comprehension that the High Evolutionary went
temporarily insane when he visited it.
It's also funny that their history/origin on panel turns out to be just as Beyonder's,
I also checked their 89' Handbook bio and it certifies this.
Only difference is the BeyonderS gave the Multiverse CCUs,
while Beyonder came in himself.
I guess that's why it was so easy to tie-in the Beyonder with the BeyonderS.
But yea, it seems this is a joint cosmic understanding between the
Cosmic hierarchy and the BeyonderS since eons past.
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Last edited by Mr Master on Jan 7th, 2012 at 08:03 PM
You know I do remember living tribunal saying it was an experiment he allows for. The only thing I wonder is if it's possible the experiment could have gotten away from him. Can't remember where I read about this though.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Well with how events have transpired over the years... Who knows....
The ig gets impressive showings in the 90
And then Recently with the hood and reed... The gems didn't seem all that uber...
While the cosmic cube with starlord seemed better
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Excellent points everyone, but heres the thing (and how I was able to get Bada to re-open the thread):
A CCU is only limited by its users ability to make it perform via strength of will...
Magus's tech was making the 5 CCU's perform to a level that was "just short" of the IG, but at the same time Thanos with a lone CCU actually matched the performance of the full Infinity Gauntlet when he used it to replace Eternity with himself...
In other words Thanos with a lone CCU>>Magus's tech manipulating 5...
Inaddition, seemingly, Thanos with a lone CCU=Thanos with the IG...
Now, if you guys remember, the LT had to ponder wether or not he would be able to defeat the wearer of the IG...
In my minds eye this means that the LT is not vastly more powerful than the collective might of the gems; the LT is significantly more powerful, perhaps, but not greatly...
Now if Thanos with a lone CCU can match the IG...which apparently isnt that far off from the LT powerwise...Thanos with 5 CCU's should be able to overpower him.
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Last edited by TheLordofMurder on Jan 7th, 2012 at 08:54 PM