OK this is just a thread where we list guys who can go toe to toe with superman there are no outside sources allowed (Magic hammers or swords ) When i say toe to toe i mean matching him blow for blow, speed for speed and versatility in powers. Guys like surfer and Heralds are excluded in fact cosmics and sky fathers arnt allowed with the exception of Thor and Herc. In these fight supes doesn't fight like he does in the comics same goes for his challengers, what i mean is that supes can use his speed to the fullest or he can use his heat vision while engaging an opponent in a fisticuff.
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Although its part of their character its still an outside source a weapon and not part of their abilities, I know the Thor fanboys will have a problem with Thor not been able to use his hammer due to the fact that it cripples him but i think Thor's strength should be taking into consideration as should his fighting skills.
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I should have thought about magic OK so we balance it out Supes weakness to magic is removed this is just punch for punch speed for speed and lightning to heat vision.
IMHO i see guys like Doomsday, Lobo, and MM holding ground.
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No it isn't only DC Characters, darkseid is excluded due to been cosmic and new captain marvel with shazams powers is sky father level so his excluded as well.
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IMO Thor is a better fighter than sups, so is Herc. The problem here is sups speed (he is one fast muttha ). But I think that even without his hammer Thor would win a small majority say 5-6/10.
I would like to say Hulk. But he isn't fast enough... if it was a pure slugfest the fight would be over as soon as hulk gets a hold of sups... but if sups play it smart he won't let hulk grab him once he sees how strong hulk is.
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Superman has an outside power source. The sun. SO I dont' get why others would face him without an outside source. All High tier beings have an outside sourse. But since we are talking toe to toe. here's the list
Gladiator
Wonder Woman
Black Adam
Hulk
Doomsday
Darksied can win without any help from his cosmic powers.
Orion Can win with out help from the astro force
Drax
Kid Miracle Man
Samaritan
Majestic
Ultra Man
Superion
Immortal Herculese
Champion of the Universe
kalibak
Thor
M'onel
Protex or any othe Martian and they can win since they have Tp
Despero
Mongul
General Eiling
Maxima
Zod
Bizarro
Ultimate Destoyer Armor
SBp can kill Superman
Superman 1 million can kill super man with ease
Gog can outslug superman
magog can as well
The Classic Juggernaut can Stand up to Supers
Count Nefaria
Amazo
Last edited by nvrbeenwthagirl on Sep 2nd, 2006 at 04:40 PM
Ultraman(original) would be a nice match for Supes. But as well, it woulld go to Ultraman. Superman has many fights and have ranged from classes 20-100+. Ultraman's weakest battle was class 100. Nothing has ever been less.
Amazo seems like he would be excluded, as his powers come from people he has copied, and Kalibak doesnt stand a chance against Superman if Supes uses his powers to their full extent. Agree with the rest though.
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hmmmmmmmmmmm well thats debatable in itself there are many who would say supes can hang with hulk even without the advantage and versatility his other power provide.
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Toe to Toe with Superman?
) When i say toe to toe i mean matching him blow for blow, speed for speed and versatility in powers. Guys like surfer and Heralds are excluded in fact cosmics and sky fathers arnt allowed with the exception of Thor and Herc. In these fight supes doesn't fight like he does in the comics same goes for his challengers, what i mean is that supes can use his speed to the fullest or he can use his heat vision while engaging an opponent in a fisticuff.
Sep 2nd, 2006 02:57 PM
). But I think that even without his hammer Thor would win a small majority say 5-6/10.
