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george '06
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falcon vs. angel

takes place in a large clearing

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Re: falcon vs. angel

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takes place in a large clearing


warren ftw

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Archangel for the win.


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Archangel for the win.

why?


Falcon the superior fighter and areal fighter

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Angel get's loads of respect and I love it. I'll give it to him here too.

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Angel get's loads of respect and I love it. I'll give it to him here too.


why there no reason he woudl win give me one good reason.


he not nearly as skilled a fighter. He has no gadgets and falcon is the best areal fighter in MU

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Why would a person who flies through technology be a more skilled aerial fighter than someone who has had natural flight since he was a teenager.


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Why would a person who flies through technology be a more skilled aerial fighter than someone who has had natural flight since he was a teenager.


just becuase you had it has a teenager does not mean you are the better figher while in the air.


He may fly better and that a big IF. He does not train in militery style and beeing doing missions in areal combat as long as falcon has. Falcon been stated as the best areal combant by Iron man him self.


Falcon gets no respect

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just becuase you had it has a teenager does not mean you are the better figher while in the air.

He may fly better and that a big IF. He does not train in militery style and beeing doing missions in areal combat as long as falcon has. Falcon been stated as the best areal combant by Iron man him self.
So he's just been playing around with the X-Men all these years. No training and missions involved at all. no expression


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So he's just been playing around with the X-Men all these years. No training and missions involved at all. no expression


yes he ahd missions, but he also taken lot of time off not to mention he even lsot his powers before.


Falcon has constantly running missions. He run more missions then angle. He has mroe combat experience then angle. He ahs better trainign then angle. He been training in areal combat longer. When ahs angle ever been consider the best areal fighter? Never. Falcon has been consider the best By Iron Man and others.


He realy gets no respect at all.

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why?


Falcon the superior fighter and areal fighter


AoA Angel

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AoA Angel

but this is not aoa angle

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It's not that Falcon doesn't get respect, it's just that Angel is better.

He's been flying his whole life. On natural wings. While Falcon is a great flyer, Angel just outshines him in this category.

Oh yea, quick side note here. While Falcon needs to use his arms to fly, Angel does not, giving him much more versatility than Falcon.

Training? Angel has been training since he was a teenager. Trained in martial arts and tactical fighting.

"Archangel's primary power is that of flight. His wings have superhuman strength, and they have a very flexible skeletal structure that enables him to press them to the back of his torso and legs with only the slightest bulge visible under his clothing. His bones are hollow, his body processes food more efficiently than a normal human body and does not store any excess fat, he possesses a greater proportionate muscle mass than normal and his superhumanly sharp eyes can withstand high-speed winds which would damage the average human eye. His lungs can extract oxygen from the air at high velocities or altitudes, and he can cope with the reduced temperatures at low altitudes for prolonged periods of time, giving him a greater-than-normal capacity to endure low temperatures in areas such as the Arctic.

While he generally flies below the height of clouds, Archangel can reach almost twice this height with little effort. At his absolute maximum, he can reach the highest recorded altitude of a bird in flight—about the height above sea level of Mount Everest—but he can only remain that high for several minutes. He can fly nonstop under his own power for around half a day.

Flight is as natural for Archangel as it is for a bird and he's been heavily trained by Professor X, especially in mastering his flight indoors. His agility while flying appears unmatched in the Marvel Universe, and he's been seen several times defeating other superbeings much faster than him (like the Human Torch) by dodging them and having them smash against the ground or a wall at full speed. The strength in his natural wings can easily break a man's arm or leg, or even project someone through a wall."

Superhuman endurance as well, able to fly under his own power for up to 12 hours straight.

Oh yea. And that pesky little HEALING FACTOR will be quite the handy tool in this fight. That is, if Falcon can even touch him. I'm not taking anything away from Falcon, but Warren's pretty much believed to be the most effective, agile flyer in Marvel.

That said. Angel for the win.


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Originally posted by capt it up
but this is not aoa angle


Warren still wins smile

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you do know that falcon amrtial arts training is >>>>>>>>>>angles

also falcon does not need his arms to fly he ahd several up grades to his suit.

hell he been flying in his suit since before angle got wings.

also don't give me that stupid bio I own it. The 2004 bio sucked any ways.

Really all you proved was that warren can fly not much mroe then thats.

warren still dwarfed by fighting prowess and areal combat prowess. Not to mention Falcon ahs wepaons while angle has none.

also angle healing factor is crap. It heals other really well, but not him self. yes it heals him, but at a much slower rate. He cna not take injuries and keep fighting and neevr has.


ya that nice beeing the most agile flyier however falcon consider the best fighter while flying which counts for a lot more.

not to mention he were body armor wich will protect him from attacks. warren really has only one way to fight falcon and that in h2h were falcon is his superior. Falcon on the other hand has quite a few weapons he can through at the angle while in combat.

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you took that crap from wiki which is not only a crappy source, but and un usable one

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Alright then. How about you show me a scan of him able to do any realy flying without his arms holding the wings? If I recall correctly, in all of the Civil War appearances he's made, he's had to his arms. Plus, I just looked up even more pictures of him, still don't see any of them without him holding his wings.

Been flying longer than Warren? Prove it.

If you want to get technical, Warren's been flying and training since 1963. Falcon was introduced in 1969. Non-technically, Warren started off MUCH younger as well, giving him much more experience flying than Sam.

Healing factor seems to work fine for what he needs it for. It won't really even be necessary here. But, in case it is necessary, Falcon won't be doing anything that will max it out.

Aerial combat better than Warren's? Hah! Prove it.

Falcon gets to use weapons and Angel can't? That doesn't seem fair. Why not give Warren that sword he carries around?

You know what though? I'll concede that Sam's martial arts skills are superior, but not enough to demolish Warren. BESIDES, it's not like he can properly utilize martial arts while in mid-air.

So, go ahead. Prove me wrong.


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Originally posted by capt it up
you took that crap from wiki which is not only a crappy source, but and un usable one


Point being? It's still correct information. It's nothing I didn't already know about Angel, I just found it easier to copy and paste my already-known knowledge for you.


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It to bad I don;t read falcon or buy his comics or I show you issue numbers. if only it was the other way around lol. I ahve 100's of comics with warren in them

First falcon was in war world two.

he got his wings about hmm think it was 5 years after the war or so. I know warren was not alive then


In the civil war file's it stated by iron man that Falcon is the best areal fighter then is and the best h2h comabnt in the air as well if I am not mistaken. He even says skill wise he my better.


This is the one time I can not show prove since I do not read falcon i actaully rather dislike his character, but I ldislike more when people think he some push over whne he clear is not. I don't think warren wins sicne really warren only advantage is agility.

He out done in skill, durability, speed and tatcical prowess. he also does not have any weapons.

also in the civl war file it says falocn wings had been up graded so know they were due to his mind if I am not mistaken and can due a number of things.

also I pritty sure he has control over birds as well.

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