Jason says:
what am I supposed to do?
Jon says:
clean your apt before she moves in? buy some pink bed sheets? scented candles?
Jason says:
wait, u have pink bed sheets?
Jon says:
ive said too much
Well hand to hand , DD takes it 10/10. Now if you give Pun use of weapons and some prep time, then he should take at least 6/10. Either way DD is ment to take guys like Pun out...
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doesnt punisher even acknolwedge at one point that daredevil owns him in every way?
when they met on a rooftop that one time when punisher was gona assassinate that guy
i would say Daredevil takes out the Punisher, but since Frank has knowledge on Matt, he could easily just use a sonic to stun him and KO him like he's done before. Pun ftw 10/10. but w/o sonics which IMO, would make it more fair, Daredevil ftw 8/10
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so wait, did u guys even see means and ends, or even when punisher first meet punisher? cuz if u didn't, u should cuz he pretty much hands dd his own ass in there first encounter, and in means and ends, or ends and means, punisher is almost dd's equal in a h2h fight, and dd is not that much superior to pun in h2h fighting, sure dd has the skills but punisher has the durability and dirty fighting skills, and iron determination...hell in a h2h fight dd takes it 7/10, in a all out fight punisher takes it 8/10, with just his usual weaponary, with prep frank takes it 10/10, it has been stated punisher misses dd on purpose....so before u guys JUMP to conclusions give respect where it is due...
When Punisher first met Daredevil, he didnt hand DD his ass. He shot him after delivering a sucker punch. If thats handing DD his ass, DD returned the favor in the very next issue. Secondly, in Means and Ends, Daredevil hands Punisher his ass for the majority of the series. Punisher isnt DD's equal in h2h in the slightest. If its a slug fest, Punsher can indeed hang, but once Eastern style comes in, Punisher knows hes done. In a h2h fight going all out, DD takes 9/10. Maybe 10/10. With prep, i do agree that Pun takes a high majority 9 or 10 as well. With standard weapons, DD still takes the majority.
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Suckerpunch? DD had the fukin drop on punisher and u call what punisher did a SUCKER PUNCH? Please, if anything dd suckerpunched punisher! And u forgot to mention that it has been stated that punisher purposely misses dd cuz he is considered an innocent, at anytime frank could cap dd and dd knows it...i love how u people read the story how u want to, their first meeting together was clearly in punisher's favor...and punisher can hang with dd in the h2h dept. cuz of his durability, he is def. not as skilled but he could take a punch thats for sure...just take a look at punisher respect link on my sig...
Yes, he says something like that before putting on the sonic devices he had planted there. Btw, Punisher was after the Gnucci family back then, if I recall correctly...
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Correct, and frank does admit this...but in upcoming marvel knights issues punisher gets the better of dd by grabing him and charging out a window, punisher uses his enviroment, plays dirty, and has boarderline supernatural durability and stamina, thats y he could take some of these h2h fights....
Yes, it was a suckerpunch. The initial battle was over and Punisher wanted to ally up with Daredevil. Hell, he threw down his gun. When DD made an advancement, Pun suckerpunched him then shot him. It was as plain as day, so i dont know how you dont see it. Secondly, it being stated tha Punisher purposely missed DD is crap. Punisher doesnt have to kill DD to stop or disable him. He can just shoot him in the arm or leg. And Punisher even used tranqs and still failed to tag DD. Their first meeting wasnt in Punishers favor until the suckerpunch and shot came in. I dont read the story how i want to, i read it how it is. Theres no way Punisher can hang with DD in the h2h department if DD is trying to put him down. I do agree that Punisher can take a punch, but his "durability" isnt saving him from bodily paralysis.
Wasn't it the Punisher that Daredevil was fighting against when he slapped a pressure point on Frank's wrist, as part of a counter attack? Didn't that completely paralyze frank?
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I got the book right in front of me and dd comes in SUCKERPUNCHES punisher while he is beating the shit out of some junkie and then punisher kickes is ass for two panles throwing him and then dd throws his stick which gets SHOT in half...now if u call that in dd's advantage u have brain problems! then dd sees pun throw his gun down and dd goes in to finish him off "im briningin u in, just like any common--urg! and punisher kicks his ass again and leaves him for dead, thats a huge win! " I've done my Homework and i KNOW you're missing me on PURPOSE...you won't kill me." DIRECT QUOTE from dd, common!
Uhh, i never said DD didnt suckerpunch Punisher. I am saying that before Punisher shot DD, he suckerpunched him in which you deny. I have the comic handy as well and still dont get how you dont see that. You call Punisher kicking Daredevil off him and flipping him over kicking DD's ass? Are you serious? Did i say that in that particular fight DD had the advantage? If so, show me quote where i said that. Secondly, DD didnt go to finish Punisher off. The fight was over with a standstill. DD DID go to take Punisher in but he wasnt moving in to attack. Hence the suckerpunch. He was just going to bring him in.....
Punisher - "The gloves are off this time Devl."
Daredevil - "Im glad the tranqs make you feel competitive, Frank. But you still cant tag me."
Like i stated before, Punisher not wanting to kill DD is a poor excuse for him missing DD all the time. He doesnt have to kill DD to take him out of tghe fight. Something you fail to see.