Tyranus and Mace will stalemate. Then it depends on whether Anakin pwns his older self with a lightsaber or whether Vader pwns Anakin with the force. Im leaning towards the sith though.
Dooku's and Mace's crimson and purple sabers flash as the two duel with unmatched skill and erocity. Anakin looks at his black-suited self and screams "do not underestimate my power!" He then runs at him and is shoved back against a wall, snapping his spine. Vader walks over and helps Dooku finally defeat Mace.
Honestly. Vader might lack the speed of Anakin, but he's a lot stronger both physically and in The Force as well as being smarter and more experienced. Anakin/ROTS Vader is too hot-headed.
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Actually, they will. Doou is definitely is as good a lightsaber duelist as Mace. He has a knowledge ov Vaapad we know and he's beaten Mace before. he's only grown stronger since that time. Plus his power in The Force is too great for Mace to handle.
Then I guess you don't know anything about Star Wars. Spock was in Star Trek. Sorry to disappoint you, but OT Vader is many times smarter and deadlier in The Force than ROTS Anakin could ever pray to be. At this time, he would thoroughly die against Dooku, who is less experienced in the dark side than OT Vader. So, in-between OT Vader's immense phyiscal power and strength in The Force and Dooku's only mastery of the lightsaber, this duo would tear Mace or ROTS Anakin apart.
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are you kidding? Vader doesn't have any strength in the force? He has immense amount of force power, just not compared to his former self. You think only 80% of Sidious, but put in perspective how powerful Sidious is...80% is still quite a bit compared to the average or slightly above average Jedi/Sith.
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I agree that Vader is deadlier than Anakin, but i wouldn't say more than he could pray to be. Had things not gone sour on Mustafar for him, he would have far surpassed anything Vader could ever pray to be. Why do people like to downplay Anakin so much? Is it because of him or because Hayden played him? I just think people don't give him his just dues.
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who did? Anakin? As I recall, he killed a padawan while choking a master, maybe vice versa, but you see what i'm saying. And you can bring up Luke but thats irrelavent due to everything vader will do during the Purges.
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Im feeling dizzy from the strong smell of bullsh*t coming from your post. Dooku is easily on par with Mace in terms of the force. Afterall he has trained for 60+ years under Yoda (the greatest light side practicioner of the era) and about 12 under Sidious (the greatest darkside practicioner of the era). Mace may have an advantage because of Vapaad, but Form VII is not indestructible. It has its flaws just like every other form. There is also the fact that Dooku has beaten Mace before - not vice versa. While I cant be bothered sparking off a huge debate about it right now - what you said is utter bullsh*t. If Mace was to win, it most certainly would not be easy. Neither would 'whip' the others ass as you so crudely put it.
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ooo yea, when mace have not even invented vaapad, yea, And by the way, having more experience doesnt sometime mean you are better, sidious had like decades of experience while yoda had 800, and when they fought? it was stalemate
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So when its Dooku fighting mace, Vapaad is flawed and not indestructible, but when its Anakin, then its the best thing since sliced bread...that's bullshit, and you know it. That's almost reverting back to your old style of Dooku debating. I doubt that Dooku beat Mace as fast as Anakin beat Dooku, not to use an A>B>C argument, but you cant say Mace can beat Anakin for this reason and then say that all of a sudden that doesn't matter when facing the almighty Dooku. That's crap bro, and you know it... If he can beat darkside Anakin, he can surely beat darkside Dooku...
Great. But Dooku hasn't exactly not gotten better himself. Both of their skill in the saber probably has drastically increased and who's to say the result would not be the same? I consider them pretty equal in saber combat but the determining factor ir OT Vader will wipe out Anakin with The Force and then it will be OT Vader and ROTS Dooku vs. Mace. Even if you are a fanboy, you can't even begin to say Mace can pull off a win against those two.
Anakin could beat Mace in saber combat if he was smart and fought like he did against Dooku and not against Obi-Wan.
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What are you talking about? I never said that Vapaad is going to beat Anakin did I? I dont ever recall arguing in a Mace vs Anakin thread. Anakin has nothing to do with this - I was talking about Dooku vs Mace, and why Mace wouldnt win as easy as people make it out to be (thats if Mace wins at all).
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A shatterpoint will be hard to find against a seasoned master of the ultimate saber to saber form. I personally think that Mace would beat Dooku, but, it would be a long fight. During the Clone Wars, they fought, and there was no indication of either having an advantage.
In the ANH Novel it says Vader during his fight with Ben is better than when they last fought (on Mustafar). His knowledge and proficiency would give him the edge over his younger, hot-headed self.
Nov 6th, 2006 04:25 AM
I doubt that Dooku beat Mace as fast as Anakin beat Dooku, not to use an A>B>C argument, but you cant say Mace can beat Anakin for this reason and then say that all of a sudden that doesn't matter when facing the almighty Dooku. That's crap bro, and you know it...
If he can beat darkside Anakin, he can surely beat darkside Dooku...
