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Tenebrous and Aegis vs. Abraxas

To the Death.


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Re: Tenebrous and Aegis vs. Abraxas

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To the Death.


Remember, Abraxas doesn't live unless Galactus dies

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Re: Re: Tenebrous and Aegis vs. Abraxas

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Remember, Abraxas doesn't live unless Galactus dies


So if Abraxas dies, does Galactus revive?


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Re: Re: Tenebrous and Aegis vs. Abraxas

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Remember, Abraxas doesn't live unless Galactus dies
What the f**k?

Then how come when the 616 Galactus was revived, Abraxas still lived?

The bottom line is that it took Reed /w/ UN to erase Abraxas from existance, and also to repair the Multiversal damage he had done.


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Re: Re: Re: Tenebrous and Aegis vs. Abraxas

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What the f**k?

Then how come when the 616 Galactus was revived, Abraxas still lived?

The bottom line is that it took Reed /w/ UN to erase Abraxas from existance, and also to repair the Multiversal damage he had done.


And yet the Ig has overpowered the UN and the Ig is universal, it draws on the power primordial of 616.

Galactus overpowered Abraxas when he was revived snatching the UN from him.

Abraxas' release caused devastation. Its not that he was so powerful he went around blowing up universes. As Leonidas put it he was Eternitys kryptonite.

Abraxas is being overrated here and yet it was stated by the writers of the comic during his story arc that he was Galactus level.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Tenebrous and Aegis vs. Abraxas

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
And yet the Ig has overpowered the UN and the Ig is universal, it draws on the power primordial of 616.

Galactus overpowered Abraxas when he was revived snatching the UN from him.

Abraxas' release caused devastation. Its not that he was so powerful he went around blowing up universes. As Leonidas put it he was Eternitys kryptonite.

Abraxas is being overrated here and yet it was stated by the writers of the comic during his story arc that he was Galactus level.
What does any of this have to do with what I said?


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tenebrous and Aegis vs. Abraxas

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What does any of this have to do with what I said?


Wasnt really directed at you as such but more at the hyping of Abraxas when he has little to no on panel feats which contradict the writers statement at the time that he was Galactus level.

He may have killed alternate universe Galactus' but then so have a bunch of zombies. Noone can make assumptions on an unseen battle. You dont know the state of the Galactus' he killed or how he killed them. He couldve pounced on them when they were weak for example.

When 616 Galactus was revived he blew a worried looking Abraxas back like he was nothing and snatched the UN from him.

Abraxas' release and his presence caused multiversal upheaval. It wasnt through power output therefore referencing that as testament to his power isnt accurate. Once again to quote Leonidas he was Eternitys kryptonite. His presence was caused a reaction in whatever reality he went in. Impressive but not an example of multiversal power.

The IG is universal as proven conclusively by its What If counterparts and the fact that its power source is universal. The Ig had the power to stop the UN.

Despite the fact that the UN had before this Abraxas arc and after this arc always been stated to have universal power, the fact that Reeds application of the UN fixed the multiverse lead some posters to state that the UN directly reset the entire multiverse i.e its power swept across the multiverse and reset everything. An interpretation that ignores all stated about the UN before and after the story arc on panel and/or in official bios.

However if the UN wiped Abraxas out of existence meaning that he never existed then of course neither would the damage his presence caused on his trip around the multiverse. That is in line with established continuity behind the UN and it means i dont have to make up things about a Multi Eternity being reset on panel when such an entity wasnt referenced in the appropriate issue.

Not at you directly, just a general rant. You were quoted just because of the subject matter your post contained.


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Not really even Marvel says that the UN is Multiversal

-Franklin Richards and Marvel Girl (the future Valeria Richards) combined their reality-altering powers to re-form Galactus, who then directed the Ultimate Nullifier's destruction of Abraxas, restoring the universes.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Galactus


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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Not really even Marvel says that the UN is Multiversal

-Franklin Richards and Marvel Girl (the future Valeria Richards) combined their reality-altering powers to re-form Galactus, who then directed the Ultimate Nullifier's destruction of Abraxas, restoring the universes.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Galactus


Silly silly.

That supports my interpretation even more. laughing out loud

That line said they used the UN on Abraxas and THAT action restored the universes.

What did i say previously? confused

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However if the UN wiped Abraxas out of existence meaning that he never existed then of course neither would the damage his presence caused on his trip around the multiverse.


Thats it! eek!


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tenebrous and Aegis vs. Abraxas

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However if the UN wiped Abraxas out of existence meaning that he never existed then of course neither would the damage his presence caused on his trip around the multiverse.
Nah, if that were true Reed wouldn't have said:

"In order to realign all that is, we needed to end all that was."

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Reed did alot more then simply wipe Abraxas from existance.


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Silly silly.

That supports my interpretation even more. laughing out loud

That line said they used the UN on Abraxas and THAT action restored the universes.

What did i say previously? confused



Thats it! eek!

You hypocrite.
The UN reset the Universes with this it resurrected the Galactuses so Abraxas would be imprisoned again.


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Just as i said, im supported on panel by the established continuity for the UN, the fact that no reference is made in the scene in question pertaining to the UN being used on a Multi Eternity as some would claim shifty and the fact that as you've illustrated Marvel supports me online and in bios:

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That makes me happy! eek!


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tenebrous and Aegis vs. Abraxas

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Originally posted by Galan007
Nah, if that were true Reed wouldn't have said:

"In order to realign all that is, wee needed to end all that was."

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Reed did alot more then simply wipe Abraxas from existance.


Which can be interpreted to mean 616 Eternity, just as the handbook states:

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Either way it was no Multi-Eternity as conjured up by some posters shifty despite the fact that said entity wasnt referenced or conclusively depicted.

If he resets Eternity then any and all associated with the 616 timeline would be affected, that includes Abraxas. He would never have done the things he did across reality


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Just as i said, im supported on panel by the established continuity for the UN, the fact that no reference is made in the scene in question pertaining to the UN being used on a Multi Eternity as some would claim shifty and the fact that as you've illustrated Marvel supports me online and in bios:

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That makes me happy! eek!


Galactus dies, Abraxas lives

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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
You hypocrite.
The UN reset the Universes with this it resurrected the Galactuses so Abraxas would be imprisoned again.


Hypocrite? confused Im confronting you with official evidence yet who's the one ignoring it in favour of the opinion of others?

Youre just mad because your feeble attempt got reversed on you. Next time take the time out to actually proof read your posts before spamming the thread. All you've done is bolster my already solid argument. wink

Once again, that makes me happy. eek!


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Silly silly.

That supports my interpretation even more. laughing out loud

I was talking about this mad

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I know this is off topic and such. But you are the most hypocrite ******* on KMC I just realised that you were calling me a non credible member just because I spammed your pathetic posts. You are the non credible not me you cocky ass. I have made 6 respect thread and posted a lot of scans into other respect threads I tried to help as many members as i could by posting scans and Issues or explained some things to them atleast i have done something for the forum and the members while all you did was posting your essays .


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
All you've done is bolster my already solid argument. wink
Solid? Not really.

You posted a few scans saying that the UN is universal, while you disregard the pannel evidence of Reed himself saying that he "needed to end all that was", by you yourself saying "it can be interpreted as".

I'm not saying your wrong, but don't try to boast superiority when your argument is clearly flawed as well.


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Ult Nullifier >>> Tenebrous and Aegis


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