Than Richards OR Doom, but put together? I dunno about that. Along with the added help of the rest of the Fantastic Four? Thanos will certainly have his hands full. Battling Thing, Torch, and Invisible woman, and countless Doombots, while Richards and Doom think of shit, and as soon as they get one thing done and send it at Thanos, they will already have another idea to throw at him. Thanos will need every trick he ever learned.
First of all, Doom wouldn't really 'team up' with the FF; he would use them in his attempt to take down Thanos, and if they were successful, he would immediately turn on them. Still, I think Thanos is too strong for any non-god-like hero/villain, even team-ups.
Doom wouldn't work with the FF, not a chance. Even if Doom and the FF found an understanding to work together,.......Thanos beats them like rag dolls regardless and then spanks them for bad behavior.
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he fought the Dreaming Celestial with the FF, why wouldnt he fight Thanos with his help....and by the way, Doom and Richards both outclass Thanos in brains, i will find a quote but i think Thanos has admitted it himself that in terms of sheer intelligence Richards is smarter
Hell, if Richards exceeds Thanos in intelligence, then it's easy to assume that Doom does also. Thanos may have more knowledge on plenty of things, but when it comes down to using what you know, Richards and Doom do it better than anyone.
Well Thanos is of course brilliant, he's just too self-conscious. He doesn't have the annoying cockiness of Richards and the unmitigated arrogance of Doom.
When written right, Thanos will bite the dust against Doom and the Fantastic Four.
I can imagine Doom will give Thanos some problems (nothing he can't handle, mind you), but together with Richards and the rest of the FF, Thanos is screwed.
And I'm not convinced Thanos is smarter than Reed or Victor. Maybe more cunning, yeah, but more intelligent ? Based on what ? His technology is on a higher level than that of Reed or Doom, but it's not like he created everything by himself, is it ?
And I haven't seem much time machines made by Thanos either. Doom constructed his own...
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I only feel that Thanos is smarter than either of them because of:
1.) the things he witnessed, experienced, and felt while obtaining
a.) the cosmic cube
b.) the Infinity Guantlet
c.) The Heart of the Universe
d.) While spending time in Death's realm
2.) He travels the ENTIRE universe...ney....parts of the Multiverse. He has seen, read, and experienced things that neither Doom or Richards has even remotely done. They are for the most part.....stuck on Earth doing their day to day stuff. Thanos cruises the entire universe.
3.) His obvious cunning...but I think that would be challenged by Doom.
false....has Thanos been to the negative zone?....the realm of the Beyonders (where the energy of the cosmic cube comes from)...has he been throughout both the multiverse and the onmiverse? has he mastered time travel? has he been to as many alternate and dark dimensions?....Has he been to Limbo? Thanos has done none of these..the FF have vastly explored the universe, brush up on that...they have experienced more intergalactic travel than any other super-team. Doom and the FF have been to so many alternate dimensions i cant even list them right now. Doom and the FF have also faced off against beings more powerful than Thanos without boosting their powers like Thanos with the IG. Back it up with facts, you listed what Thanos has done yet u totally ignored the FF and Doom...it might not be your fault cuz u might not know. Thanos has been all around the universe but so have the FF. Thanos does not engage in time or extra-dimensional travel that often. If he does travel interdimensionally, its to Death's dimesnion or one of a handful of dark dimensions. He mostly just hangs out in the regular reality flying around in vast star ships built by the people of planets he conquers. When Doom and the FF travelled to the Beyonder's dimensions, they passed through the dimension of the Beyonders (different from the Beyonder) and several other Dimensions that Thanos and no one else to my knowledge had passed through before or since then. a couple years ago the FF just jumped around dimensions for months after fighting Ronan the Accusor.
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Thanos most certainly has mastered Time travel...and i would say that he has a farrrrr greater understanding of it than Reed Richards and Doctor Doom combined....
Time Gem....
Granted my knowledge of the FF and Doom are near next to nothing incomparison to Thanos, but there are things that both have done that the other hasn't.
the FF and Doom both spend LIMITED time in outer space. Their PRIMARY base of operations is on Earth. Thanos' is in his space ship traveling the universe.
Also, having traveled to Limbo, the Beyonders Dimension, and the other things you've mentioned says little about the actual intelligence they both have.
And no one knows what vast amounts of information Thanos has obtained just by doing things like embodying Eternity. To even weild power that amazing is beyond that which a human can comprehend or handle...
Also, your statement about the FF defeating greater enemies than Thanos without the aid of something like the Infinity Guantlet is sort of a mute point. Thanos wasn't given the IG, he earned each gem by getting it from their previous master. They need devices in order to trump greater enemies....like the ultimate nullifier for example.
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using a time gem is not building a time machine....Thanos has no knowledge of time travel....he just had a means of accomplishing it...thats like saying Cable knows more about time travel Than the Leader because he has a device that lets him do it...Cable isnt smarter than the Leader, he just had someone give him a time travel device...Doom and Richards have both built several....and it does say something about their intelligence because Doom and the FF are the only ones in our universe who understand how to reach these dimensions...I dont think Thanos would want to travel to either one though cuz he would more than likely get destroyed..and yes it is hard for a human to comprehend or weild the kind of power Doom did as a Beyonder....thats why it took him time to figure it out and get used to it...
and another reason Doom and Richards know more about time travel...Doom has spent time rolling around with Kang the conquerer...will u try and argue that Thanos knows more than KANG???!?!! kang eventually evolved into Immortus, a human being who meditated in limbo until he had full enlightenment of time and reality! here is a quote from marvel directory:
Immortus was then visited by the Time-Keepers, a trinity of beings who had been born at the very end of the timestream, in the final days before the collapse of the universe. The Time-Keepers helped him unlock new secrets of time and appointed him to oversee the 80 millennia of his existence, a minor task when compared to the whole of Time itself. Creating a giant guardian for his castle, Immortus embarked upon a number of campaigns to untangle the skein of timelines that he and his counterparts had created by their indiscriminate use of time travel. Believing that most of the beings he encountered in his campaigns could not begin to understand the mysteries of time that motivated him, he frequently gave them facile or even misleading information to quell their curiosities or ease their anxieties. The beliefs of other beings were not important to him as long as they did not interfere with his duties as custodian of this segment of the timestream.
im not finished...guess what, although it hasnt been fully explained Reed Richards and the man known as Rama Tut, Kang, and Immortus, are both decendents of Nathaniel Richards, Reed Richard's Father, who is rarely in our time but usually off adventuring around in other timestreams....it isnt explained yet but Richards and Immortus could be brothers...it would make sense since Rama Tut/Kang made his first appearance in the early issues of FF
no its cool....there is just a lot of time travel stuff concerning the FF... i wasnt trying to be inflamatory...ur one of the people I respect on here linkalicious...I would never want to sound like i was being insulting to u
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