No, I actually think that Mags, Apoc and Juggs are very powerful.
But I didn't just want to randomly pick 3 characters to face them against, and since those 3 Avengers had some comics together, I thought it would be interesting.
Thor, IM, and Caps make a very good team that is formidable as they work well together. Caps is a brilliant battlefield strategist and capable fighter, along with his shield, he can survive. Iron Man is extremely versatile and intelligent. And Thor, well, he's arguably the most powerful one of all six combatants.
Apocalypse is virtually Skyfather level. Juggernaut is Juggernaut. Captain America won't do much with that shield against Magneto. Iron Man will have trouble too. Though I love Thor, the power for Team 1 is too great for me to vote against them.
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"I'm not smart so much as I am not dumb." - Harlan Ellison
People debate whether Thanos is one, and yet, Apoc is one?
Even a certain Thanos hater (who shall remain nameless), has said Thanos isn't a skyfather level, and later he said that Apoc is one.
And he even says that he knows all about Thanos?
Anyway, irrelevent.
Thor is more powerful than Mags, and Apoc. He is more powerful than Juggs too, but he can't really hurt him.
Cap has no power to play here. He is the weak link.
Apocalypse is NEARLY Skyfather level, I said. He can make himself nearly as strong and durable as he needs to. He's in Thanos territory for power ( though not as devious as the Mad Titan.)
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yeah I guess I underpowered the Avengers. I chose those 3 because they have their own series, so I thought it would be cool to pit them against some powerful foes.
Ya, in bios, he is near Thanos.
In comics... he gets wiped out with the wave of Thanos's hand.
What is, stalemating Namor (a skyfather shouldn't have a problem with him)?
Getting beat by a wisper?
I think Cyke has owned him.
etc, etc.
He would get raped by Thanos, beat by Thor, beat by Blackbolt, beat by Silver Surfer, beat by Superman, beat by anyone remotely close to a skyfather, be it, herald level, and up.
Top tiers have beaten him.
He is nowhere near Thanos, or even a good herald for that matter.
I'm thinkg that if Thor can unleash a Godblast in the start of battle, he could immediately eliminate either Mags or Apoc. Then the odds would even quite a bit.
Apoc isn't Skyfather even remotely close. Namor has made Apoc cringe with a table thrown at him.
Apoc talks a big game but isn't any where close Apoc himself even states in the War Hulk comic that Juggernaut is by far the toughest x-Men foe it terms of power.
Anyways Thor could BFR the entire team if he wanted to and had the time to do so. In character fighting though with Thor just throwing his hammer about the fight is a little better.
Let's see Cap is done very fast IM is a tough cookie and could easily battle either Mags or Apoc separately and pull outa stalemate or win against them although Mags is the bigger threat. Thor could handle either Mags or Apoc pretty easily if you ask me. So because Thor and IM have the flight and maneuverability so they should get the matchups they want better so at the end I say it is IM and Thor against Juggernaut and while they could stay out of his reach they wouldn't beat him except for BFR
no he doesn't. He's faced much tougher situations and survived. Now I'm not saying he won't get killed, but it's gonna be a lot tougher than his stats would indicate.
Still, Team (CA, IM and Thor) lose horribly and easily.
Team 1 is actully far too much for the other team.
Thor alone wasn't mathc for Juggernaut.
Still, that wasn't true Apocalyps, true Apocalypse was dead, it was HoM.
And before, Apocalypse has withstood the scream of BB like it was nothing.
And if you say he would get beaten by anyone, why wasn't he then beaten by High Evolutionary (who was clearly above Silver Surfer), Loki or PE Ikaris?
Am, no, where did you get that from? ''I desired to learn whetever his power could withstand my own... and, by extention of Celestials (which is anyway litereally part of Apocalypse power for thosusands of years), clearly I am receiving my answer.'', in other words, he said his (Apocalypse power) goes clearly beyond that of Juggernaut.
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