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Star Wars meets LOTR

I was thinking about similarities between Star Wars and LOTR the other day...there's quite a lot of parallels! A couple being:

-Obi-Wan = Gandolf. A wise mentor, also killed and comes back to help out.

-Turning to the dark side of the force = Getting sucked in by the power of the ring. Become consumed by evil.

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They are both about good and evil

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I don't think this belongs here.


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Dunno where to put it...suggestions?


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Count Dooku = Saruman on many levels. I might post them later if I have time.


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There is a VS-forum, isn't there?


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I'm not sure this is a versus thread, more of a comparison...

Also, the SWVs. is strictly Star Wars on Star Wars.

Maybe SW EU?


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No...I thought of that...but we're not talking about EU Star Wars...if anything, we're talking about OT Star Wars...where it all started...well, kinda. I say just leave it here?


-Just thought of another one this moment!

The ring is destroyed = The Emperor is destroyed...both thrown down a fiery pit in the climax.


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Star Wars - ROTJ; Luke: "I'm not leaving, I've got to save you." Vader: "You already have, Luke."

LOTR - ROTK; Some random chick; "I've got to save you." Some random king guy: "You already did."


GAAAAAAYYY!!!!! Can you say, "bite much"? That was terrible. Also, Return of the Jedi (third movie), Return of the King(third movie).
Although the books were written many years before the Star Wars script, the screenplays were not, and obviously bit some things from the SW trilogy.


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He plays the treacherous Count Dooku in Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones and the wizard Saruman in Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films. Both characters derive their power from their force of persuasion. Both characters are subordinates to a greater villain, Darth Sidious in Star Wars and Sauron in The Lord of the Rings. Both characters are members of a higher class than others (Jedi or Wizard) and in both cases his characters are killed at the beginning of the third film.

Saruman and Dooku also captured Gandalf and Kenobi respectively. They were also both 'good' characters before turning to evil.


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Amazing!!! You rock!


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Hahaha thanks, I forgot to add that they were both portrayed by Christopher Lee. stick out tongue


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You also forgot that both commanded a large army.


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Ohhh well done, I hadnt thought of that one. big grin


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Let me think:

Both had an underling (Dooku = Jango and Saruman = Wormtongue). Both planned to betray their master. Both tried to convince the one they captured to join them (Kenobi/Gandalf). Both sought a greater power. Both united regions/planets to their cause. Both had a right hand man who knew how to fight and was killed (Lutz and Grievous). Both underlings I listed above were killed in the presence of their master. Both army's were beaten at a battle that happened at the end of the movies' second editions (Helm's Deep and Genosis). Both enlisted the aid of a different species to help them (orcs and genosisians).

I could do more but that should do it. I'm sure RO could add on to the list.


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Sweet!

Lucas, you're one sly dude.

I can't believe this one I just thought of!

Frodo = Luke: Both coming out of humble beginnings...one a shire country town, the other a farm, and they go on to be the saviours of the world/universe.

Plus, both...missing parents. Frodo was raised by Bilbo (whom he thought was his uncle)...and of course Luke with Uncle Owen.

Wowee!


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Let me think:Both tried to convince the one they captured to join them (Kenobi/Gandalf).


That one's a beaut!

The funny thing is too, I don't think we're even strethhing it yet.

This is just kinda revealing how much of a Tolkein nut Lucas actually was.


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Saruman was the head of the White Council whereas Dooku was the head of the Confederacy of Independant Systems. Both of their masters betrayed them - Sidous sought to replace Dooku with Anakin whereas Sauron didnt send any of his near limitless army to help Saruman.

I think ESB covered the rest of them.


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Take Dune and LOTR, add a snuff of Lucas and bingo: you got SW.


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Both planned to betray their master.


When did Dooku plan to betray Sidious? He was Sidious' b1tch...sorry Ox, sad. But no, he never expressed the notion to overthrow him, that i'm aware of at least.


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