In pure battle, Kar could very well take it due to the enviroment (otherwise, he would lose), but I'd still see Dooku's much, much, much superior offensive force powers kill him....
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Except Mace only beat Kar after spending several days finding his Shatterpoint. Dooku won't have the time let alone the ability to find Kar's Shatterpoint.
I dunno, during Kar and Mace's first fight Kar pwnd Mace with the Force. I'd say his Force Powers are ahead of Dooku's.
Kar pwned Mace with the force? Whoa, he did? When? I thought he wasn't even trained as a force user.
Anyway, Mace doesn't use lightning nor as offensive force powers as Dooku does, Kar is not gonna parry a strike of force lightning that took out both Anakin and Assaj almost instantly.... (It will go around his shields into his hands most likely, and I doubt he has the technique to parry it, not even Luke by ROTJ had that)
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Mace>Dooku. Kar>Mace (In direct blade-to-blade combat) Kar>Dooku.
And Simba wouldn't need his army, grown up Simba could waste Dooku and probally stalemate Kar...
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Kar used the Force on Mace at the end of their first fight in the jungle. I'll provide you with a quote once swtimeline.ru starts working again.
Thinking that Kun's shields can't block lightning is total speculation. Seeing as they [b]are[/i] shields, it's actually more likely than not that they can block lightning. And Mace punched Kar in the face repeatedly at such a fast speed that his hands were invisivble and Kar didn't budge, I've got to think that he could block Dooku's lightning or at least have a good chance at blocking it.
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Well, if you hold a shield, and the shield gets electrocuted, you should get lightning through your hand into your body as well right?
Block it with his skin own body maybe, but not force wise like Yoda did. And that will mean Dooku can lift and toss Kar around with the lightning as well...
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Well, if you hold a sword and it gets electrocuted, you should get lightning through your hand into your body as well, right? But if you're holding an energy sword, like a lightsaber, you can block it, and if you're holding an energy shield, like a Vbro Shield, I suspect that it would block it, too.
As far as blocking it with the Force, what if he just blocked all Dooku's Force Attacks, telekinesis, too, or just tossed Dooku around with the Force before Dooku could do anything. swtimeline.ru isn't working for me right now so I can't provide text for Kar using the Force. Just wondering, does swtimeline work for you?
Is it an energy shield? Oh, thought it was just an improved normal shield....
Well, is there any proof that his force attacks are above that of Dooku's? Dooku is a sith lord, and one of the better ones in history. His force powers are like third in the pt, after Yoda and Sidious, and he is very much more offensive than Mace. (Besides, Mace was wounded as hell when he fought Kar at the end. I mean, he got pwnd by Depa, doubt he would get that otherwise...)
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This si what Wookieepedia says about Kar's shields: The shields were immune to the metal-eating jungle rot of Haruun Kal and also, as superconductors, could not be cut by a lightsaber; however, if a lightsaber was held to the metal long enough, it would melt. They also could deflect blaster and slugthrower bolts.
They were equipped with simple electronics that allowed them to vibrate ultrasonically, for additional cutting power.
Kar beat Mace pretty bad with the Force, worse than I think Dooku could beat him. And his Force Powers might be third (from the films, anyways) but he's still quite a bit below Yoda and Sidious and I doubt he's to far above Mace and ROTS Anakin, if he's above them at all (he probably is, though).
And Mace didn't get pwnd by Depa, on the contrary, he wasn't trying to hurt her at all and he still won (because she collapsed from exhaustion/stress).
Mace says that it would be unlikely for him to defeat Kar even if he was in his prime condition.
Anyway, Kar was supposedly stronger (physically) than Mace as well as faster, possibly from help as his being master of the jungle. Dooku's (as was seen in Episode III) weakness was an opponent using brute strength. I'm a big Dooku fan, but I'd say Kar takes this one.
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