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Old People Should be Put Down

"A modest proposal"

When I go to the hospital, to visit my brother after another one of his drunken accidents, I see an alarming amount of the same type of people filling the hospital beds. These types of people are also clogging the streets of White Rock and Kelowna when I go there to shop or stroll. I see them everywhere, in every country, in every region of the world. These people may be chalk full of wisdom, but their feeble minds sometimes can’t retrieve it all, or they’ve become vegetables. I’m talking about the elderly. Becoming old is reaching epidemic proportions in this world.

As they get older, elderly people contribute less and less to society, and in fact, become a burden after they’ve stopped working, as they require pensions and a significant amount of medical care and attention. Many elderly are confined to hospital bed as doctors try to keep their unfulfilling lives intact, using valuable resources and much needed medical supplies. There are a lot of young people who still have their lives ahead of them that might need an organ that would be given to an old person just because the need was more urgent. Thus, my proposal is that once they reach a certain age (perhaps 70), having had a fulfilling life and without a job, we kindly put them down. Now, I know humans can live to be 120 years old, but by then they are virtually useless, having lost function in their brains and bodies.

The Earth’s population is somewhere around 6,716,098,794 people and that number keeps growing. Dependant old people make up 25.8% of that population. If we could eliminate that burden, many people would be able to live happier more extravagant lives, and their children would have more opportunities and better educational funds. It would also serve to solve some of the Earths overpopulation problem.
It would also free up many housing opportunities for less fortunate people and homeless people, since someone would have to fill up the space left behind by all the deceased old people. We could easily fit all of the homeless people into the many retirement communities that there are in this country. It would also provide an opportunity for people to move to Canada from poorer countries.

Also, the strain on the healthcare system would be relieved, as elderly people take up over 42% of the system. Care taken from young people who may lose their lives for the sake of an old person would be given back, and there would be less waiting periods for organ transplant and other treatments. And one can’t help but compare the value of a younger person’s life to an old person, which is much less than the young persons, as they are nearing the end of it. It’s just unfortunate that elderly people’s organs and tissues are virtually useless at that point, or else they could be giving back in many more ways.

I also have to admit, not many people I know enjoy the thought of growing old, and the possibility of dying before having become senile or vegetative is an appealing prospect. I myself would rather die some fantastic way than be a vegetable lying in a bed. What would be the point of living if you can’t do anything or even enjoy it through remembering? Plus, by that age, many of your friends might already be dead or demented, and let’s be honest; almost nobody over the age of ten really likes the company of seniors.

And I can’t say I would be entirely unaffected by this proposition. I have grandparents who I hold near and dear to me, but they are getting a little senile and living off of pensions, which are barely enough to support them. I would miss my grandparents dearly, but if it’s for the betterment of society I’m sure they’d agree. They would be given the opportunity to say goodbye to their family and younger friends, have a chance to enjoy their funeral, and then given the lethal injection, right into their coffin if they wish (skip embalming, it’s pointless), or carted off to the crematorium.


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I'm fine with this just so long as we don't just kill them. Use their deaths to stimulate the economy with some sort of betting or gladiatorial games. Also you should make sure to recycle the bodies into a food or fuel.


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i could think of any useful wasy to use theri bodies,

that gladiator ideas a good one though.


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I enjoy the company of my Granny. She's a right laugh and she's nearly 90. She's not dependant and she lives on a pension she earned. There are some annoying old people (a lot). But, I can think of more annoying chavs I'd like to see eradicated.


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WTF is wrong with you you nazi. A F**KING funeral where they lie in their coffin and then get lethal injection at the end??? WTF why not a firing squad or an electric chair-wouldnt that be more entertaining......

I can see where the argument is coming from, its just insane. A cutoff medical service age is in itself is a farfetched proposal, let alone killing people at a certain age. Now, giving the elderly second priority in medical service line is another thing altogether. In fact, that is mostly already being done.

When you turn 70 I can predict the future, and KNOW you will be a hypocrite to your own cause and scrap the whole idea.

And your brother should stop Drunk driving because it is HIM and all those that follow the same example that are wasting the Health care industry.

Just because they are old doesnt mean they are in a vegetative state. My grandma is 85 and she doesnt have a wheelchair or a cane...she swims half a mile at the pool 3 times a week. and I cant swim half a mile straight, shes in better shape than me and shes happy considerably.


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WTF is wrong with you you nazi.


Somehow I don't think that applies. Facists would just work old people until they died where they stood.


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WTF why not a firing squad or an electric chair-wouldnt that be more entertaining......


Good effort, but I don't think you can top the gladiator idea.


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I think he's joking, at least I hope he is. Cause if you tried to implement that your would have a revolution on your hands the next day. Excuse me, but if I spend my life working and paying taxes, both income and when I buy things, then society better be damned ready to take care of me in my old age.


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Dependant old people make up 25.8% of that population.



What is the cut off age for old? The only thing you said was 70 and above and I guarntee without any research that 25.8 % of people on this Earth are not 70 and above.

Where did you get this #?

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If we could eliminate that burden, many people would be able to live happier more extravagant lives, and their children would have more opportunities and better educational funds.


More extravagant does not equal happy, that's number one. Number two, cutting the population does not spread the wealth. This isn't communism where we are all sharing everything.

Better educational funds? Do you know how this system works? The middle class will get screwed regardless.

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It would also free up many housing opportunities for less fortunate people and homeless people, since someone would have to fill up the space left behind by all the deceased old people. We could easily fit all of the homeless people into the many retirement communities that there are in this country.


Again, naive. Not that simple.

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Also, the strain on the healthcare system would be relieved, as elderly people take up over 42% of the system. Care taken from young people who may lose their lives for the sake of an old person would be given back, and there would be less waiting periods for organ transplant and other treatments. And one can’t help but compare the value of a younger person’s life to an old person, which is much less than the young persons, as they are nearing the end of it. It’s just unfortunate that elderly people’s organs and tissues are virtually useless at that point, or else they could be giving back in many more ways.



- 42 % of what system?

- The age of a person should not determine the value of life. Life is life. A healthy 70 year old person is more important than a 17 year old with an inoperable brain tumor since they will die sooner in the way you explain it.

- So we choke off the old people for organs and tissues?

There is just way too much too rag on. Hell, somebody will pick it up.


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WTF is wrong with you you nazi. A F**KING funeral where they lie in their coffin and then get lethal injection at the end??? WTF why not a firing squad or an electric chair-wouldnt that be more entertaining......

I can see where the argument is coming from, its just insane. A cutoff medical service age is in itself is a farfetched proposal, let alone killing people at a certain age. Now, giving the elderly second priority in medical service line is another thing altogether. In fact, that is mostly already being done.

When you turn 70 I can predict the future, and KNOW you will be a hypocrite to your own cause and scrap the whole idea.

And your brother should stop Drunk driving because it is HIM and all those that follow the same example that are wasting the Health care industry.

Just because they are old doesnt mean they are in a vegetative state. My grandma is 85 and she doesnt have a wheelchair or a cane...she swims half a mile at the pool 3 times a week. and I cant swim half a mile straight, shes in better shape than me and shes happy considerably.


lol, wow, thanks for that smile

i never thought anything i wrote would ever have quite such an affect. tis fun smile

clearly you dont get the allusion, but thats okay.

really sorry if ive offended anyone, i dont really mean any of that, i love my grandparents. smile


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What is the cut off age for old? The only thing you said was 70 and above and I guarntee without any research that 25.8 % of people on this Earth are not 70 and above.

Where did you get this #?



More extravagant does not equal happy, that's number one. Number two, cutting the population does not spread the wealth. This isn't communism where we are all sharing everything.

Better educational funds? Do you know how this system works? The middle class will get screwed regardless.



Again, naive. Not that simple.



- 42 % of what system?

- The age of a person should not determine the value of life. Life is life. A healthy 70 year old person is more important than a 17 year old with an inoperable brain tumor since they will die sooner in the way you explain it.

- So we choke off the old people for organs and tissues?

There is just way too much too rag on. Hell, somebody will pick it up.


oh, the stats? yeah, i made most of them up. smile


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lol, wow, thanks for that smile

i never thought anything i wrote would ever have quite such an affect. tis fun smile

clearly you dont get the allusion, but thats okay.

really sorry if ive offended anyone, i dont really mean any of that, i love my grandparents. smile


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The nazis wanted orderly extermination....actually now that i reread this i see more parallels to Russia under Stalin.


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oh, the stats? yeah, i made most of them up. smile




No seriously though, that is sad.


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Wow so basically you created a ridiculous thread to see if we were all retarded? So either you have no life and spend all you time wasting time with pointless threads that waste space, or else you are really smart and are trying to learn how people react. I would have done something like that.

And i dont get the allusion...please clarify


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Wow so basically you created a ridiculous thread to see if we were all retarded? So either you have no life and spend all you time wasting time with pointless threads that waste space, or else you are really smart and are trying to learn how people react. I would have done something like that.


So you're saying you're really smart? How modest. You and Starhawk would get along thrillingly. He's an 'intellectual' as well.


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