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Selene vs Apocalypse

These two oldies fight at the elder center.


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I think Apoc would win even though selene is older


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Apocalypse takes the ***** down. cool


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Why does everyone call Namor the first mutant when they both are clearly older.


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Apocalypse takes the ***** down. cool


Selene is hot big grin


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Apocalypse.

He may have some new progeny afterwards also.


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Selene destroys him hardcore, and btw Namor is called the first mutant b/c he's marvels FIRST DRAWN/CREATED mutant, Selene wasn't "made" until probably the 70s while Namor's from the 40s


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I'd give it to Apocalypse. Selene is pretty awesome, though, and hot!

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it doesn't look so good for selene!


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In her most recent appearance she could assume a living shadow form that would make most of Apocalypse attacks pretty inconsequential, which would make it basically a stalemate.

Her sorceress powers are supposed to rival Kulan Gath, but she has few appearances to confirm that.

She does have her life-draining abilities, which may be mutant or magic derived. Is there anything to suggest Apocalypse would be resistant to a mutant life-draining power? Is there anything to suggest that he'd be immune to a magical life-draining power?


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When it comes to strength, Selene is around class 50? I don't know really, anyone got some feats to prove me right/wrong?

Apocalypse is weaker when it comes to magic, but I think he's got superior energy blasts and physical strength.

Selene is probably the stronger telekinetic/telepath.


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Apocalypse should win this, but since he looses so many times, Selene would probably beat him in the end.


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Originally posted by llagrok
When it comes to strength, Selene is around class 50? I don't know really, anyone got some feats to prove me right/wrong?

Apocalypse is weaker when it comes to magic, but I think he's got superior energy blasts and physical strength.

Selene is probably the stronger telekinetic/telepath.
Nah, her physical strength is nowhere near that.

With her new shadow melding abilities energy blasts, particularly unidirectional, and physical force are likely to have no effect.

Her main trump card would be her mutant/magic life-draining abilities. Other than that it would probably end in a stalemate.


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i see a stalemate as well. dracular was able to affect apoc -- badly -- though, so were i to hedge one way or the other, i would lean toward a well-written selene.

good match. smile


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i see a stalemate as well. dracular was able to affect apoc -- badly -- though, so were i to hedge one way or the other, i would lean toward a well-written selene.

good match. smile


Thanks.

I'm not entirely satisfied with the way they did Apocalypses' powers there, he didn't use any sort of energy blasts. Nonetheless, Dracula's powers affected him.

Selene could probably drain his lifeforce, but would she get the chance to?


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it's hard to say. if he's well written it's difficult to to tell. she does have the speed advantage, and its essentially unkillable. with her teleporting, you'd think she could reach him and interact physically so if she can hit him, she should be able to drain him. in the new mutants she drained the life forces of loads of people without even needing to TOUCH them. erm don't know if she could do that to him.

it's close. i'd lean towards selene still, but it would be a tough battle.


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Apocalypse should win this, but since he looses so many times, Selene would probably beat him in the end.


None of Apocalypse's losses are relevant, since they all have an explanation as to why, and how he gets beaten...


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I think Apoc wins this pretty handily. The only thing he and Selene really have in common is the immortality. Apoc is far more powerful and has shown as much on panel. The only reason why it's debatable is due to the Anti-Apoc sentiment of this board. Power for power and showing for showing it's not even close. Apocalypse is superior.


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I think Apoc wins this pretty handily. The only thing he and Selene really have in common is the immortality. Apoc is far more powerful and has shown as much on panel. The only reason why it's debatable is due to the Anti-Apoc sentiment of this board. Power for power and showing for showing it's not even close. Apocalypse is superior.


Selene has a lot of decent feats, there's no lack of that.

Also, Apocalypse being immortal has been retconned I think. I mean, if he was immortal then there wouldn't be a need to go through all the hibernating.


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Selene has a lot of decent feats, there's no lack of that.

Also, Apocalypse being immortal has been retconned I think. I mean, if he was immortal then there wouldn't be a need to go through all the hibernating.


He's immortal, his original physical body was simply destroyed. He survives in a succession of host bodies or by regrowing a form via his blood/techmode virus.

And Selene isn't in Apocalypse's class in my opinion. Popular opinion on this board is that he's just above street level and fears coffee tables so I just let it ride for the most part.

Believe what you will.


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