Cage and IF take this....u didnt say Batman has prep, so in a normal fight he'd lose to Cage since he wouldnt have had time to prepare something to get past Cage's skin....and IF in my opinion could take Nightwing.
SCAGE AINT SLOW. he aint fast but he sure as hell aint slow.
also iron fist can make his punches so strong that if it hit batman or night wing that would explode.
IRON FIST AND CAGE TAKE THIS.
If you give Batman full, unrestricted access to his weapons locker, then he just pulls out his batwing and strafes LC & IF from the stratosphere with halo missiles and crap.
If you threw the four of them off the street and into a thunderdome arena, the Batman and Nightwing wouldn't stand a chance against Cage alone. With Iron Fist in the mix it becomes a slaughter.
I disagree. Gadgets (why does everyone ignore them?) Cage is a good fighter...but he's slow...in alot of ways. Sonics, gas, electromagnetic pulse via that creepy looking credit card.
Iron Fist will be considerably tougher to put down but Batman and Nightwing can take him.
Cage might be comparitively slow, but he and Danny are experienced working as a team. Iron Fist can basically use Cage as a shield while he charges up his chi. Batman and Nightwing dare not get within reach of Cage's arms.
If they try to shoot him with gas, Cage claps his hands together real hard and knocks it away. If they hit him with sonics--screw it, Cage is made of sterner stuff than that. Like he couldn't take a shot from Ulysses Claw?
Not that Batman and Nightwing aren't an effective team, but they are only human. Up against 25 ton lifter Cage and his buddy who blows through concrete walls with his fists. LC & IF aren't jobber villains, either.
Iron Fist kicks Batman or Nightwing into the arms of Cage and and that's the end of the fight for them.
Not nearly as long as Nightwing and Batman. They don't even have to talk or signal to each other anymore. They just do it instinctively.
That would be an effective strategy. Try shielding against an electromagnetic pulse though....
The tear gas they carry is greenish in color like the entrance to the Wicked Witch of Oz. However their other gases are invisible and odorless. They copied some nerve gas from Luthor too.
I disagree. Their sonics are made from Cyborg and the technologies of a Mother Box. Some are liberated from the Silver Swan (Batman is SUCH a plagarist). If they can affect the likes of Shark, Sinestro and Solomon Grundy than they'll affect Cage...badly.
God knows how many jailed villains said that to Batman....
Who will have a very difficult time connecting with Batman and Nightwing when they're performing Tony Hawk stunts in the air. Gases. Sonics. Electromagnetic pulses. Explosives powerful enough to harm The Shaggy Man. Tazers. Etc.
No, they aren't. They sure USED to look like that though. Especially Cage. Thank god for his new sense of style.
Iron Fist kicks Batman or Nightwing into the arms of Cage and and that's the end of the fight for them. [/B][/QUOTE]
The scenario above is extremely unlikely. Moreso do to the fact that they innoculated themselves to be immune to the gas. It would be pretty stupid for that to happen, so they have a failsafe. Like they have a protective covering in their cowl (mask) to protect against the effects of a electromagnetic pulse.
God, the K'un L'un school of martial arts sucks the Kame Sen'nin school's cock.... still though, all Iron Fist needs is a minute screened behind his big, invulnerable buddy, and then he's a peak human (Marvel byspeak for low-level superhuman) one-man army.
All he has to do is just knock Batman or Nightwing into grabbing distance of Luke Cage. Cage isn't some unschooled thug, he knows how to fight well enough to at least grab Batman by his cape. Once Big C has either of them in his arms, he squeezes them until they pass out (this takes all of .5 seconds.)
Cage is tough enough to whether a taser shock too, for sure.
Highly unlikely. They'll be jumping around, swinging around, hopping around, etc. Batman wouldn't let either them get ANYWHERE near Cage. Pluse they'd take him out first THAN worry about Iron Fist. So Cage acting as a shield may not be the best idea...
Many a villain have tried and failed. And Batman can just simply detach the cape.
And Cage was so stupid, he failed high school...twice.
Again the likelyhood of Batman or Nightwing getting in Cage's grasp is high unlikely. Nightwing especially who shows Daredevil hell sometimes Spider-Man level agility. And Batman is just a step below him.
A taser shock capable of knocking out Solomon Grundy? Nah.
Cage could stomp down more than a few of Solomon Grundy's pissant-weak incarnations.
And again, Cage isn't some villain. This isn't Killer "I'm faster and stronger than you but God forbid I just punch you in the face and split your skull my precious Bat-darling" Croc.
And Iron Fist would be more than a match for them in the air. Nightwing and Batman are good, but neither are PEAK HUMAN. That's not something you can achieve through training. It's potential that has to be unlocked, like with Cap's supersoldier formula or T'Challa's herb.
Iron Fist is stronger, faster, and at LEAST as skilled as Batman. Check out his record. He's defeated the Black Panther, if only by a narrow margin. And he doesn't have to completely defeat either of them by himself. Hell, if he just judo-chucked Nightwing into Cage's chest hard enough, it'd be the same as chucking Dick into a steel wall. A steel wall that will grab your arm and snap it.
I doubt it. Cage would (narrowly) manage to outsmart Grundy though...
Shrike is a good example. League of Assassins. Almost a match for Shiva. Tried numerous times to grab Batman's cape...and failed. Again, all Batman has to do is detach his cape.
Again. A great many of people would disagree with this statement. Batman and Nightwing ARE peak human. They've trained to be and it's been said numerous times in their history.
Iron Fist cannot reach neither Batman nor Nightwing in the air. Unless he has grappeling hook or something....
Stronger, yes. Faster, yes. But only through chi amplification. Skill is debatable. Batman and Iron Fist have both defeated top-tier characters.
Again. You're completely ignoring their gadgets. I could end this arguement right now by saying Batman pulls out his niftly gold thingyamjig and fries the brains of Iron Fist and Luke Cage via an electromagnetic pulse. Physically, they can't win. With gadgets? Most certainly, so. First rules of tactic. Disorient. Sonics and blackout gas courtesy of Dr. Midnite. Next. Seperate. Explosives. If Iron Fist somehow survives, he'll likely be seperated by Luke Cage. They can't contact each other because A) They're damn near deaf and B) They're blind. Next is to focus on the most powerful. In this case, Luke Cage. Take him down with nerve gas, EM, or microwaves. Than Iron Fist will fall.
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