In many Ds threads, people tend use the "Superman beat him" excuse. Yet they forget that Superman happens to be...well...Superman. His unique powerset and his status as the greatest icon of all time, gives him the most ridiculous character shields(along with his fellow hero, Batman) in comics. Dc gives him the spotlight, and characters below him the boot. Not only is he the poster boy for Dc, but he's the Micheal Jordan of comicdome. So I observed his crazy feats, such as taking Darkseid to the Source wall, with a BOOMTUBE(which of course, came out of nowhere), beating Dominus, pwning Despero with tvo, and taking on numerous baddies who have been to be a match, for the Jla.
So what if Supes history was completely different and he was made by Marvel instead? How would his jobber effect, rub off on their cosmic hierarchy?
Superman has the greatest power of them all, popularity. And that along with his plot device powers, gives him numerous possibilties when facing ridiculously powerful foes.
So I decided to make this thread, only with a big twist. What if Supes had been a child of Marvel rather than Dc? With a character like him in their hands, how would he had faired against Galactus or even other powerful Marvel villains?
This isn't your standard match, this more like a prediction on how different Supes would be if he where a Marvel character. Could he retain his jobber effect and perhaps defeat Galactus(alone, without the help from another character) on several occasions. Or would none of his popularity matter and Supes would be treated like any other Marvel character.
I made this thread because people don't take it into consideration, that when a villain losses to Superman it isn't really a bad thing. He accomplishes such feats, because the hero always wins, and Superman is seen be many to be THE HERO.
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Thats hard to say, Superman is DC's answer to everything, they rely heavily on him. Really one of the reasons he seems to have a jobber aura is because he is an earth hero, and he does have to fight villains from the earth. In order to make it interesting they have to have good fights regardless of who Superman is battling otherwise itll get old. Basically they amp him up or down for who he is fighting to make things interesting, but its pretty clear he can go toe to toe with most in DC.
Marvel is a little more consistsent in their levels of power imo. Its possible that if Superman would have adapted into a marvel character they wouldnt have to amp him up or down to how they see fit, they would simply make him galactus level in power . . . if that makes sense.
Its hard to say if he would have had the same impact, cause even though he was extremely popular in the 30s and so on, so were a lot of other heroes that either died out or lost a ton of popularity; example being Captain Marvel if you want a current hero thats not near as popular as he once was
Marvel might not have taken him in the same direction so its a tough question
On a different note if Galactus was a DC character, Superman would have beaten him already
Quan, you kinda contradicted yourself.....You say Galan would never job to Supes, yet you mention Sentry stalemating him....Don't you think both companies are being ridiculous, for hyping up their character's in such a way? And wouldn't Sentry being able to Stalemate Galactus, be more in favor of Superman having a shot at taking him on aswell? I honestly don't think there's a big power gap between the two. And don't you think criticizing one company for doing something, when the one your defending is guilty for the samething...hypocritical?
Not really, people try to use many of Supes wins against opponents who are clearly superior, as concrete evidence for a certain debate. The reason I made this thread, is to show how part of Superman's ability to perform such feats, is due to his status, and not because he's simply more powerful than the opponent he's facing. When villains who are clearly more powerful than Superman submit to him, it's not a testament to how weak they are, it just shows that Supes is Dc's key to everything. So in other words, his showings against a certain character, shouldn't be used to put him/her down.
not at all. sentry is above superman and doesnt have his glaring weaknesses. supes would get absolutely smashed. sentry stalemated him while supes never could pull off a stalemate.
why would i criticize marvel here as i see sentry >superman.
nope sorry. if supes uses a plot device u have a point but when he beats a being in a duel with no plot device and makes that being tap out. its supes just rocking someone he shouldnt with no help from the story. see the diff.
on topic, if superman was a marvel hero, he'd get his ass kicked by galactus much like all the other heros in marvel who tired to face of with galactus.
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