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Galan007
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Who's the best?

If the following characters were to square off against one another in an arena type setting, who would be the last one standing, and why?

Yoda (ROTS)
Grievous (Clone Wars)
Mace
Dooku (AOTC)
Exar Kun
Anakin (ROTS)

Now, in this battle the characters are only permitted to use their lightsaber skills. Nothing else.

Who prevails?



P.S. I know this thread exceeds the 'max number of contenders' rule - but because it is only regarding the combatants' skills with a lightsaber, I'm hoping it won't be closed.


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I believe it would boil down to Yoda and Anakin, or Kun and Anakin. If Kun, then Anakin eventually defeats him (as I'm sure fatigue would set in) and if its Yoda and Anakin... not sure. Anakin could win, but then on the other hand, this is Yoda. But that's what i got so far.
And before someone says something about Mace, Yoda could defeat Mace, as Vaapad wouldn't help him.


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what's your opinion(s) on grievous here? because this battle is sans force powers, would he still get owned by the likes of dooku and mace?


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Originally posted by Galan007
what's your opinion(s) on grievous here? because this battle is sans force powers, would he still get owned by the likes of dooku and mace?


Yup, especially from Dooku in this case considering he trained Grievous. He is the first to fall.

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from what i've seen, it's mainly when force powers are used against grievous that an advantage is gained over him. taking that 'crutch' (lol) away from the jedi/sith, would allow gg's very unorthodox style(s) to shine. sure, dooku might still be able to best grievous in one on one combat - but i certainly don't think it would be any kind of curbstomp in his favor [under the specified conditions of this match, of course].

just my opinion.


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Dooku would still beat him. As would Yoda, Mace, Anakin... Kun. I just think that while he is good, he's the weakest link. I doubt he's seen Kun's form/style, so he'd likely have trouble with him.


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i agree that the aforementioned masters would eventually beat him. i guess all i'm getting at is, if grievous were to fight dooku or mace one on one, after the battle(s) their stamina would more than likely be very much depleted [as i see gg putting up one hell of a fight]. this would leave room for another being to easily dispatch them. stamina might be an issue for yoda as well, imo [depending on how things played out, of course].


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So they can't use the force to replenish their energy? Or is that now allowed in this battle?


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So they can't use the force to replenish their energy? Or is that now allowed in this battle?
they cannot use force-replenish. the combatants have, "only what they take with them." the only force powers allowed, are those which are needed in order for these characters to duel at their best.


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Anakin or Yoda would win, most likely Anakin though, Kun goes down first though, against these duelist with out his ZOMG AMuLetz!! to help him he'd barely be a match for Grievous in a straight up duel, whom dueled on even footing with Mace Windu, and Count Dooku, knew every style of saber combat, and pwnd 5 Jedi at once.


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Yoda wins.

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Anakin or Yoda would win, most likely Anakin though, Kun goes down first though, against these duelist with out his ZOMG AMuLetz!! to help him he'd barely be a match for Grievous in a straight up duel, whom dueled on even footing with Mace Windu, and Count Dooku, knew every style of saber combat, and pwnd 5 Jedi at once.
what has exar done that puts him over grievous in that department? [i don't know much about exar's fighting skills].


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Anakin or Yoda would win, most likely Anakin though, Kun goes down first though, against these duelist with out his ZOMG AMuLetz!! to help him he'd barely be a match for Grievous in a straight up duel, whom dueled on even footing with Mace Windu, and Count Dooku, knew every style of saber combat, and pwnd 5 Jedi at once.


When has Greivous in a straight duel stood on even footing against Mace and Dooku?

Also when did Exar Kun saber skills become so low? Obi Wan defeated Grievous in a saber battle and I don't see Obi Wan defeating Exar Kun.

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Obi Wan defeated Grievous in a saber battle and I don't see Obi Wan defeating Exar Kun.
obi defeated grievous after mace had wreaked havoc on his body via force crush. that being said, grievous was in no way at his best during that particular 'battle' [like he is here].


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When has Greivous in a straight duel stood on even footing against Mace and Dooku?


That hardly seems relevant considering both Mace and Dooku are probably better duelists then he is. So is Obi-Wan. Kun has done nothing with a lightsaber to convince me that he even close to being near the PT's top bracket.


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obi defeated grievous after mace had wreaked havoc on his body via force crush. that being said, grievous was in no way at his best during that particular 'battle' [like he is here].
Uh, he crushed his throat. How does that affect his mechanical limbs/computerized mind?


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Uh, he crushed his throat. How does that affect his mechanical limbs/computerized mind?
first off, mace crushed grievous' chest. after mace did so, grievous went down to his 'knees' clutching his chest, and coughing/wheezing in pain. secondly, it seems gg's brain was mainly organic, as this cut away shows:
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/...eralgriezx0.jpg

that being said, i believe one of two [or possibly both] things resulted from mace owning grievous.

1.) being harmed by a jedi in such a manner made gg lose personal 'confidence', for lack of better words, in himself. this would undoubtedly diminish the psychological "fear and intimidation" edge he implemented in battle. thus, rendering him a much less efficient duelist.

and/or,

2.) having his core crushed, damaged gg's body as a whole. he certainly moved and acted much different from clone wars, to ROTS [which implies to me that something about him had drastically changed]. if, say, gg were in constant pain [which seems likely], fighting/moving like he could beforehand would be exceedingly difficult to accomplish - which accounts for him acting as feeble as he did, and being owned in laghtsaber combat as though he weren't even a threat.

please note that i am not saying the final results of obi/gg's battle would have necessarily been different. however, had gg been at his peak, it would have been a much, much closer battle. he just didn't seem to be that same "i can best 5 jedi at a time," beast.

all imo, of course. smile


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That hardly seems relevant considering both Mace and Dooku are probably better duelists then he is. So is Obi-Wan. Kun has done nothing with a lightsaber to convince me that he even close to being near the PT's top bracket.
I wouldn't go as far as to say Obi is better than Grievous in saber fighting, GG WAS weakened when they fought.

This is between Yoda and Mace IMO.


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Obi-Wan was better then GG was in saber fighting.


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