I disagree, Sidious wins the all-out battle, but Anakin is superior with a blade. Sidious got beaten by Mace and disarmed by Yoda - Anakin beat Dooku pretty badly. I don't see Sidious beating him with a saber.
Yeah...But Dooku had to fight Anakin AND Obi(Who beated Anakin at the end). So I don't think Anakin should be given all the credit...If it would be just him vs count, it would be much harder battle...
Have in mind, that force using exhausts a Jedi, so when Dooku rendered obi unconcious he just couldn't get the upper hand in that fight...No way...
I suppose, Kenobi did probably hel[ tire out the Count a little bit. But still, Anakin seems better than Yoda at swordfighting to me, and Yoda beat Sidious with a saber (he disarmed him). Mace says that Anakin might be the strongest Jedi ever, too, that puts him very close to Yoda overall at least, and if he is close to Yoda overall then he must be stronger with a saber (cause he sure is hell isn't better with the Force).
George Lucas debunked this "Dooku wasn't trying his hardest" nearly 2 years ago.
- George Lucas, ROTS AC
The underlined part overrides what was said in Labyrinth of Evil (the part about Palpatine telling Dooku not to kill Anakin, not to try his hardest, whatever).
Anakin is better in sabers, and if this was him w/ the darkside after he turned, he could beat Sidious before it got into a force contest of throwing pods, which he would lose.
I doubt he could beat Siidous before it turned into a Force contest. We didn't see all the details from the Yoda vs. Sidious duel ( ) but from the script we know that Sidious was disarmed, yet, facing a lightsaber armed opponent with no saber himself, he was still able to push it into a Force duel. If Anakin/Vader began to win, he could easily just put his saber away and turn it into a Force duel, assuming the terrain was right (for escaping Anakin's blade so he could start using the Force).
IF Dooku wasn't trying because he is arrogant, then why does it matter? It's still Anakin owning Dooku, Dooku's arrogance just brings down his overall power level then. But there's no reason Dooku wouldn't be trying his hardest against an opponent who is besting him. The novel says he's just no match for Anakin. And he fights just as good in ROTS as he does in AOTC.
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Sidious is superior to anakin in saber combat i believe and anakin may beat him when he thinks clearly. However seeing that sidious is manipulative he can change anakins psychological state so that he wont think so clearly thus giving himself the upperhand
his arrogance doesnt bring his power down it just makes him cocky like in ep2 when he thought he could take yoda so he ran. but i believe he thought he could manipulate anakin only he ended up pissing him off and then anakin beat him. if you watch the beginning of the fight dooku is holding both anakin and obi wan off just fine. if he can take both of them then knock one out he can take the other one.
but why does this matter? its anakin vs sidious. i'd say sidious cause he bested yoda and tooke out 3 masters in like 30 sec.
I think Sidious would win...Though I don't think his lightsaber skills are very high...Sure he beat 3 jedi masters easily...But i think it was more because he caught them surprised...The way he jumped at them...And they(exepct Windu) were very unorganised...It looked like they didn't knew what to do...
And if we take Sidious vs Yoda, or Dooku vs Yoda....
When it comes to lightsaberz, the only diference is that Yoda knew count's skills preaty much, because he trained him. Dooku's saber skills didn't change too drasticly since he joined the dark side...
But as for Sidious...His skills were entirely new to Yoda...The Jedi always looked on Palpatine as a mere chancelor...
That's my opinion anyway...
I just wanted to say here, that it's entirely different to fight someone you know, than someone you don't.
I honestly think Anakin has a more then better chance of besting Sidious in pure saber combat, Anakin is arguably the #1 duelist up until NJO Luke. He is certainly as good if not slightly better then Mace and Yoda in saber combat if he's on his game, so he's got a very good chance of beating Sidious in saber combat.
In a full out fight though Anakin would get raped by Sidious. He isn't in the same world as Sidious when it comes to Force power.
Jul 18th, 2007 07:19 PM
) but from the script we know that Sidious was disarmed, yet, facing a lightsaber armed opponent with no saber himself, he was still able to push it into a Force duel. If Anakin/Vader began to win, he could easily just put his saber away and turn it into a Force duel, assuming the terrain was right (for escaping Anakin's blade so he could start using the Force).
