LOL. Wonder what inspired you in making this thread. Anyways, Kas'im wins this one hands down. He was directly stated to be the greatest swordsman of his time, and has actually demonstrated formidable Force power on top of that amazing technical ability. Allow Raskta the added advantages of battle meditation that she was receiving against Bane, and she'd win.
For starters, that's from Bane's POV and he'd never heard of raskta. Given she, even with BM was capable of keeping up with Bane circa Ro2 and that she isn't a swordsman...force, I'd grant Kas'im.
Bane had an intelligence network so precise that he'd located an individual Jedi Knight who resembled Zannah, who her master was, found out when she'd be away from the Temple and then snuck his disguised apprentice in for several hours. I think he'd have heard of the greatest duelist in the Order.
Barely. There was one point where she stood against him while he worked his way around her to get to Worror, and the rest of the time she was getting her ass kicked. Even with BM, he almost ran over her.
Huh?
Kas'im sweeps all three - more versatility, a more pronounced mastery of all aspects of the weapon(s), and considerably superior Force ability. Raskta is directly stated to have neglected Force training in order to focus on her swordsmanship, and Bane nearly crushed her against a wall with a Force-push. Farfalla had to use all his power to lessen the impact, and she still hit pretty hard. Kas'im stopped a Force-push that disintegrated an entire building.
That's sheer physical strength which, of course she isn't going to match Bane in. She gave him more trouble than Kas'im would have at that point, I would think.
Technically she's a swordswoman
Yep, force and all out, Kas'im takes. Saber-wise, not entirely sure. Raskta'd be good enough for Kas'im not to be able to surprise her as she's a master of Jar'Kai, which is his finest.
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I think that Kas'im wins in all three areas, although in sabers it might be close. Kas'im is stated to be the greatest duelist in the galaxy. That shouldn't be up for debate, really. Direct statement, no wiggle room involved.
When he switched to Jar'Kai in PoD he was definitely Bane's superior. Even amped with battle meditation and naturally superior reflexes (she was Echani wasn't she?), Raskta was barely holding Bane off and being pushed backwards. It's not entirely fair to compare them based on that, because Bane had ten years of training and an amp from orbalisks...But meh.
No. It's stated by the narrator, and it's clearly not coming from Bane by virtue of the fact that Bane is not in a position to speak for Kas'im's level of ability with respect to the entire Galaxy, and as such wouldn't think as such.
Within the first few passes Bane knew he couldn't win. Kas'im had trained his entire life for this moment. After years of study, he'd mastered all seven forms of the lightsaber. Then he'd honed his skill for decades, perfecting every move and sequence until he had become the perfect weapon and the greatest living swordsman in the galaxy. Maybe the greatest swordsman ever. Bane was no match for him.
All of the fight is from Bane's POV, why would this be different? This is what Bane believes about Kas'im, period.
If I'm wrong, you'd sure as hell better never whine about the Death Star novel again.
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The story unfolds in 3rd person omniscient, if I'm not mistaken. Which would make Bane's POV factual. It's not as if the novel states, "Kas'im told Bane he had mastered all seven lightsaber forms...Bane believed him to be the greatest swordsman in the galaxy. Maybe ever."
It's presented as a fact, from the 3rd person perspective.
I might be splitting hairs and arguing semantics, though...but that is my opinion. The novel doesn't take place from the first person viewpoint.
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I wish we had more of a chance to look at Raskta without the aid of BM. The few seconds she goes without it, she ends up backpeddling like crazy, doesn't she?
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Yeah. Mentions her killing as many Sith Lords as the Thought Bomb did? But just look at Quardis. The Sith Lords of Kaan's Brotherhood were really weak. I don't know that their saber skills would have been any better.
Aug 20th, 2008 04:25 AM
