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One-world Government/One-world Currency?

The Bible does not use the phrase “one-world government” or “one-world currency” in referring to the end times. It does, however, provide ample evidence to enable us to draw the conclusion that both will exist under the rule of the Antichrist in the last days.

In his apocalyptic vision in the Book of Revelation, the Apostle John sees the “beast,” also called the Antichrist, rising out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns (Revelation 13:1). Combining this vision with Daniel’s similar one (Daniel 7:16-24), we can conclude that some sort of world system will be inaugurated by the beast, the most powerful “horn,” who will defeat the other nine and will begin to wage war against Christians. The ten-nation confederacy is also seen in Daniel’s image of the statue in Daniel 2:41-42, where he pictures the final world government consisting of ten entities represented by the ten toes of the statue. Whoever the ten are and however they come to power, Scripture is clear that the beast will either destroy them or reduce their power to nothing more than figureheads. In the end, they will do his bidding.

John goes on to describe the ruler of this vast empire as having power and great authority, given to him by Satan himself (13:2), being followed by and receiving worship from “all the world” (13:3-4), and having authority over “every tribe, people, language and nation” (13:7). From this description, it is logical to assume that this person is the leader of a one-world government which is recognized as sovereign over all other governments. It’s hard to imagine how such diverse systems of government as are in power today would willingly subjugate themselves to a single ruler, and there are many theories on the subject. A logical conclusion is that the disasters and plagues described in Revelation as the seal and trumpet judgments (chapters 6-11) will be so devastating and create such a monumental global crisis that people will embrace anything and anyone who promises to give them relief.

Once entrenched in power, the beast (Antichrist) and the power behind him (Satan) will move to establish absolute control over all peoples of the earth to accomplish their true end, the worship Satan has been seeking ever since being thrown out of heaven (Isaiah 14:12-14). One way they will accomplish this is by controlling all commerce, and this is where the idea of a one-world currency comes in. Revelation 13:16-17 describes some sort of satanic mark which will be required in order to buy and sell. This means anyone who refuses the mark will be unable to buy food, clothing or other necessities of life. No doubt the vast majority of people in the world will succumb to the mark simply to survive. Again, verse 16 makes it clear that this will be a universal system of control where everyone, rich and poor, great and small, will bear the mark on their hand or forehead. There is a great deal of speculation as to how exactly this mark will be affixed, but the technologies that are available right now could accomplish it very easily.

Those who are left behind after the Rapture of the Church will be faced with an excruciating choice—accept the mark of the beast in order to survive or face starvation and horrific persecution by the Antichrist and his followers. But those who come to Christ during this time, those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life (Revelation 13:8), will choose to endure, even to martyrdom.




Note: I do not subscribe to all views contained in this video -- interesting nonetheless!

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Wait, why is a universal currency a bad thing?


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Oh boy... I think we need to start a politics thread, ha ha!

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Wait, why is a universal currency a bad thing?


A world currency would relinquish all power to a private, centralized bank. And this central bank would manipulate the world exactly like the Federal Reserve (manipulates the United States Government). Yep... you guessed right, power corrupts.

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Wait, why is a universal currency a bad thing?

Because ties everyone's economy into everyone' else's economy, which hurts the economies that manage themselves well.

To the topic, this isn't the end times. There will never be end times in terms of biblical accounts.


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To the topic, this isn't the end times. There will never be end times in terms of biblical accounts.


Your absolutely correct, the current world disposition in affairs does not constitute End Time phenomena; but I believe man is riding a downward spiral. As for the latter, you may be right, but what are you basing your views upon? Speaking for myself, I compare current events to Scripture. Heck, I could even be wrong. It's interesting, nonetheless, that Scripture, so-called originating from the mind of God, becomes more valid in time. Current events help verify this. What's going on?

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no body has the authority to create a single world currency and no nation would allow it

for instance, people who are concerned about the Amero. Canada and America BOTH make ludicrous amounts of money off of the fact that the Canadian government, here is the important part, ARTIFICIALLY DEVALUES THE CANADIAN CURRENCY. Thats right, it is in the interests of whoever these "shadowy figures" who really run the world are to keep the Canadian and American currency separate.

Now, apply that times 10 000 to the economic relationship between America and India, or America and China, or China and Russia, or any other 2 nations who do lots of trading yet have different currencies.

However, again we see the insane melding of Jerry Falwell and ****ing Alex Jones. My question, how long before the extreme right begins to say Obama caused 9-11?


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Originally posted by ushomefree
Current events help verify this.


I'm actually really curious about this, as lots of Christians say similar things, but really don't expand on it...

Can you list maybe 4-5 SPECIFIC predictions made by Christianity, their source, and particular world events which you feel are meeting these predictions?

I just want to know what it is that Christians are looking at and saying, "this, this is the prophecy we were talking about all along"


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Re: One-world Government/One-world Currency?

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Originally posted by ushomefree
Note: I do not subscribe to all views contained in this video -- interesting nonetheless!


Yeah, because they spent about half an hour debunking Christianity previous to this segment....

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My question, how long before the extreme right begins to say Obama caused 9-11?


2-3 months? Maybe they dont care. He already destroyed America...


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no body has the authority to create a single world currency and no nation would allow it


Your absolutely right, but the most powerful people in the world do not live by rules, regulations and laws. It's all about power and money. Heck, just a couple weeks ago, President Obama became the head of the United Nations. That is in direct consequence to the US Constitution. And yet, he'll never be impeached or brought on charges. The point is, in this world, corruption rules, and its accomplice is money. It takes brave, law abiding men to enforce the words written within a document like the US Constitution. Honorable men give it power. Otherwise, it is worthless. Bush and President Obama have demonstrated this, even Bill Clinton. Understand?

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for instance, people who are concerned about the Amero. Canada and America BOTH make ludicrous amounts of money off of the fact that the Canadian government, here is the important part, ARTIFICIALLY DEVALUES THE CANADIAN CURRENCY. Thats right, it is in the interests of whoever these "shadowy figures" who really run the world are to keep the Canadian and American currency separate.

Now, apply that times 10 000 to the economic relationship between America and India, or America and China, or China and Russia, or any other 2 nations who do lots of trading yet have different currencies.


I think I understand where you are coming from, but at the risk of assuming, could you please re-write your point without grammatical errors and poor sentence structure. No pun intended.

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However, again we see the insane melding of Jerry Falwell and ****ing Alex Jones. My question, how long before the extreme right begins to say Obama caused 9-11?


A political body/group would never do such a thing; some fanatic may rant and rave, but he/she will be destroyed by the media and the American people.

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Originally posted by inimalist

I'm actually really curious about this, as lots of Christians say similar things, but really don't expand on it...

Can you list maybe 4-5 SPECIFIC predictions made by Christianity, their source, and particular world events which you feel are meeting these predictions?

I just want to know what it is that Christians are looking at and saying, "this, this is the prophecy we were talking about all along"


Hmm... that is a fair, but heavy question. Please consider reviewing the website entitled Prophecy Hotline. It may not answer all questions, comments and/or concerns that you have, but it is a good start. Let me know what you think, nonetheless.

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No more pot-shots Shaky, please. Either contribute to the thread or just watch it unfold.

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No more pot-shots Shaky, please. Either contribute to the thread or just watch it unfold.


This is all based on an interpretation of the bible and a belief in prophecy. If the bible and prophecy are both untrue, then there is not problem with a one wold government/one world currency.


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This is all based on an interpretation of the bible and a belief in prophecy. If the bible and prophecy are both untrue, then there is not problem with a one wold government/one world currency.


A one-world government/one-world currency -- being problematic or not -- has absolutely nothing to do with the reality of prophesy. A one-world government/one-world currency would relinquish all power to a private, centralized bank, exactly like the Federal Reserve in the United States. Instead of our monetary system being governed by sound money, it is governed by bureaucrats and politicians.

Moving on.

As for biblical prophecy, it does not require intellectual suicide and/or drug induced emotion to connect the dots. A book, and the Scripture within, speak off a one-world government, economy and religion. Testing the validity of Scripture is verified by researching current events, not to mention history. For example:

"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name" (Revelation 13:16-17).

What is this Scripture implying? No one knows for sure, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Again, we should analyze current events and history, and reach an informed decision.

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Originally posted by ushomefree
A one-world government/one-world currency -- being problematic or not -- has absolutely nothing to do with the reality of prophesy. A one-world government/one-world currency would relinquish all power to a private, centralized bank, exactly like the Federal Reserve in the United States. Instead of our monetary system being governed by sound money, it is governed by bureaucrats and politicians.

Moving on.

As for biblical prophecy, it does not require intellectual suicide and/or drug induced emotion to connect the dots. A book, and the Scripture within, speak off a one-world government, economy and religion. Testing the validity of Scripture is verified by researching current events, not to mention history. For example:

What is this Scripture implying? No one knows for sure, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Again, we should analyze and history, and reach an informed decision.


Perhaps you would be happier if each state issued it's own money, and we got ride of the federal government. Or maybe each city should make its own money. For the same reason that a federal currency makes sense, a world currency would make sense.

There is no reality to prophecy. And as far as the bible goes, this is only your interpretation.

What would you do if a key element to this string of prophecies were to be destroyed?

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Shaky... do you think that the Federal Reserve, which is nothing more than a private bank, has done more harm or good for our country?

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Shaky... do you think that the Federal Reserve, which is nothing more than a private bank, has done more harm or good for our country?


I think it has done more good.


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