Wow, with Batman's intellect/tactical prowess, CIS is virtually nonexistent. She WILL use the full extent of her speed now, as opposed to how Marvel people like to say DC characters don't use/have speed.
^ with regards to the above post, Superman would get slaughtered. He is fighting someone in his own physical stat class armed with a weapon that can unleash magical attacks.
No he won't with Wonder Woman using the Mjolnir she won't be able to utilize her other weapons she pretty much becomes a faster Thor attacking Superman. Batman’s intellect/tactical prowess? Please what is intellect/tactical prowess adding that Wonder Woman doesn't have? Sure batman maybe utilize this tactic a lot with character that have weakness with no kryptonite here it’s pretty much useless.
You don't think a "faster Thor" can beat Superman with a magical weapon?
In my view of the characters, speed is the only thing holding Thor back for the majority when fighting Superman. They are of comparable strength, (Personally I think Superman is in front) but Thor has a few tricks he can do with his hammer.
WW always had magical weapons before magic isn’t as big as a weapon people make it out to be. This WW won’t be that much faster than Thor. Thor can swing pretty fast also WW won’t be as efficient in using Mjolnir as Thor so a minor speed boost isn’t that big a deal Considering Superman has better feat in this category than both Thor and WW combined. Sure Thor and Superman are similar but I believe WW is weaker less durable, slower etc than Superman so having a powerful hammer won’t change much because Superman will still connect and if Superman wants he can put her down quick.
This is not that big of an upgrade if Mjolnir doesn’t add Thor’s power to WW and stack them.
Sure WW will get her share of wins here but Superman fighting smart should still be able to pull a maj.
and Yes I believe Superman will beat Thor even if Thor had WW speed which isn't that big of a difference from Thor's original speed to begin with.
It's basically a faster Thor...
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Superman gets the majority on a standard Diana (about 6-7/10) and each win is a hard fought one. If anything, the upgrades make this a split against Superman at the very least.
I would argue that Wonder Woman just with Batman's tactical skills and intellect would be enough to take a split with Superman, adding Mjolnir and teleportation makes it spite against Superman. You'd need someone more powerful than Supes to take a majority against this Diana.
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I disagree with a lot of this. Most who argue for Superman winning in a fight against Thor list his superior speed as one of the keys to his victory. With WW, that speed advantage doesn't exist in a fight.
I also don't think that Superman can put her down "quick[ly]." I give Clark a majority over Diana but he works for it.
And giving Diana Mjolnir is a pretty significant advantage. Even if we remove all of the esoteric elements of the hammer, it will still amp her striking capabilities and with her base strength that would most definitely hurt Superman.
In most forum fights we're dealing with standard WW and in that context, she loses a majority to Superman. But if we add in her weapons, I think she wins. Just adding her sword would be enough to tip the scales in her favor because she no longer has to KO him. The lasso is obviously a huge asset, but its hard to execute in close combat. She also doesn't normally use her tiara as a h2h weapon. Giving her a weapon like Mjolnir, even without having the finesse with it that Thor does, gives her a way of overcoming Superman's durability much more quickly. Given how proficient WW is with all forms of armed combat, I think it's safe to assume that she would wield the hammer very effectively.
This is all with her own gifts. Her tactical prowess is already top notch thanks to her gift from Athena. Adding in Batman's on top of that makes her even more of a threat.
I think someone like Surfer or Stardust could take her. To win a fight like that she'd have to understand all of Mjolnir's properties and the thread doesn't state that she does.
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