Juggernaut and Fred Dukes (X Men: Origins) face off in the street outside the childhood home of Jean Grey.
Fred Dukes is as he was at the beginning or Origins, still in somewhat decent shape.
The fight takes place in broad daylight, lots of room for Juggernaut to run around and gain forward momentum.
To the death.
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No fred was just KOed or knocked down by Wolverines hard adamantium skull, before Wolverine was having no effect on him before he went for his head after Fred tried headbutting him...I think Juggernaut could win this though...plus wolverine never used his claws on Fred
Fred tanked a....well, a tank shell with his fist.
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That's because Wolvie took him on without knowing anything about him. Here, Dukes and Juggernaut know of each other and what the other can do.
The tank shell had a sharpened tip and an explosive head, Dukes stopped it with his fist and he didn't even blink. What feat does Juggernaut have to compare to that?
Juggernaut needs forward momentum to use his powers, this is stated in X2. Even while using his powers, he doesn't have anything that compares to Dukes' tank shell feat. Stopping a tank shell with a fist trumps crashing through a few concrete walls.
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I would state that a deleted scene showed wolverine stabbing juggernaut in the shoulder but having no effect on him, but that doesn't count I guess. I'm pretty sure since juggernaut knows of blobs weakness (his head) he'd win, I mean really...what weakness did we see juggernaut having? He got KOed cause leach took his powers, there's no leach here. Wolverine managed to knock him out with a few headbutts, I don't see blob winning this.
It's not Blob, it's slim Dukes, man. And Wolverine KO'd blob, NOT Dukes, with adamantium.
You telling me if Juggernaut has his helmet off and Wolverine does the same, it will have no effect? Bullshit.
Forward momentum. Helmet.
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He only needs momentum to be unstoppable, his strength, durability and speed still there when he's simply stationary. He'd simply run into him and Fred can't do anything to stop him.
RJ, tell me which is more traumatic for the head: Bashing your head though an entire wall (while running), sometimes it's cement, or getting headbutted by a 300lbs short guy?
And the fact that Dukes stopped a tank shell with his hand, this means nothing eh?
Speed? what speed?
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Sorry its a reflex, FRED just gained some weight, it was never stated that his powers or anything had changed...he still beat him, if wolverine had done the same earlier in the movie I'm pretty sure it would KOed him still
You never said anything about his helmet being off, and besides you can't say it wouldn't effect him, like I said it was a deleted scene but he got stabbed and didn't care...thats saying something...I hate that they deleted that scene cause that'd sooo come in handy here. The point of the fact is that Fred just doesn't win here...are you saying Juggs doesn't get his helmet here? Cause he still has the metal on his hands and that would come in handy.
I never said his helmet was off, I meant he wore it during his feats.
Still waiting for a screen feat that trumps Dukes stopping a tank shell with his bare hand.
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May 5th, 2010 12:39 PM
what speed?
