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Maul in the same situation as grevious.
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Moriarty
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Maul in the same situation as grevious.


how does he fare? Does he die, kill fewer, or kill more than grievous?


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In that fight, why didn't the Jedi sense Grevious in the Force when he was hiding above them?


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It's possible that since grevious is mostly metal, he is less of a life form/disturbance in the force. He is also not a force user.

This does create a question: If those Jedi were all so powerful, WHY didn't they sense him?


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Shaak Ti, Aayla Sacura and Ki-Adi-Mundi together are too much for Maul to handle. Granted tehy arn't in the best of shape but I still don't think he can take it.


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Shaak Ti, Aayla Sacura and Ki-Adi-Mundi together are too much for Maul to handle. Granted tehy arn't in the best of shape but I still don't think he can take it.


None of what you just posted there made any sense.


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Yeah, Maul is a dead man.

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Maul dies.


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Maul who manhandled TPM Jinn?


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Yep, that's the Maul. Couldn't beat him till he got him 1 on 1. With a padawan. This is THREE council members. He is toast.

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Three council members who have no feats or accolades to their names.

Unlike Jinn.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: who was Mace's equal.

Moreover, what stops him from using the same tactic?


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Yep, that's the Maul. Couldn't beat him till he got him 1 on 1. With a padawan. This is THREE council members. He is toast.

um no.

Maul was "in control of the fight" and Jinn knew it.


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Unlike Jinn.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: who was Mace's equal.
Yeah, even though Qui-Gon was killed by Maul, I'm sure he could have duplicated Mace's feat and beaten Sidious.


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In control of an older Qui Gonn Jinn hardly means he could beat him before he got him separated. @shoes: I just posted the relevant passages on QGJ's prime vs. his old age.

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Yeah, even though Qui-Gon was killed by Maul, I'm sure he could have duplicated Mace's feat and beaten Sidious.



I never claimed TPM Mace > ROTS Mace. Quite the contrary, merely that both Qui-Gon and Mace were council members, both of which Maul can/did kill. Not that your argument makes any sense, because of course Mace will beat any dark sider with the exception of DE Sidious. That said, Mace's raw bladework, without the added features of the loop & Vaapad (something that he had yet to develop at that point in time), is quite comparable to Maul's. One might say, inferior, judging from the way Maul tore through Jinn.

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In control of an older Qui Gonn Jinn hardly means he could beat him before he got him separated. @shoes: I just posted the relevant passages on QGJ's prime vs. his old age.


Um, actually, no. You fail to draw the line between his "old age", and his prime. Irrelevant quotes gathered from TPM mean nothing; you cannot prove that his old age hindered his ability to remain equals with Mace (something you've yet to touch on), or percisely when he was in his prime. Furthermore, if you cannot give us an accurate definition of his prime, use of that argument is invalid.

Even during his fight, as Kenobi is watching them, he sees that Jinn is visibly straining, that Maul was in complete control, and that Qui-Gon was severely out-classed.


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Um, actually, no. You fail to draw the line between his "old age", and his prime. Irrelevant quotes gathered from TPM mean nothing; you cannot prove that his old age hindered his ability to remain equals with Mace (something you've yet to touch on), or percisely when he was in his prime. Furthermore, if you cannot give us an accurate definition of his prime, use of that argument is invalid.

Even during his fight, as Kenobi is watching them, he sees that Jinn is visibly straining, that Maul was in complete control, and that Qui-Gon was severely out-classed.


You didn't read my quotes did you? The cover everything you said. : ) Try the other Maul thread on this page.

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There are five threads, and that was a trick question. You can't prove it.


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You are tiresome. Back in the day when I was a newb i would have been shredded to pieces for not even bothering to read the source before arguing.

I'll humor you again. Stop making angry accusations without fact-checking.

Pg. 283: "Qui-Gon was nearing sixty; his youth was behind him and his strength was beginning to diminish."

Pg 286: "He was worn and battered by now, close to exhaustion..."
Pg 299: "Obi wan did not like the weariness he saw in the slump of the older man's shoulders, in the bow of his back. He was the best swordsman Obi-Wan had ever seen, but he was growing old"

Pg 200: "His opponent was strong, and had tested him severely. He was getting old, he decided, and he did not like the feeling."



Clearly, TPM Qui Gonn was not Qui-Gonn's prime.

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I never claimed TPM Mace > ROTS Mace. Quite the contrary, merely that both Qui-Gon and Mace were council members, both of which Maul can/did kill. Not that your argument makes any sense, because of course Mace will beat any dark sider with the exception of DE Sidious. That said, Mace's raw bladework, without the added features of the loop & Vaapad (something that he had yet to develop at that point in time), is quite comparable to Maul's. One might say, inferior, judging from the way Maul tore through Jinn.


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Pg. 283: "Qui-Gon was nearing sixty; his youth was behind him and his strength was beginning to diminish."

Pg 286: "He was worn and battered by now, close to exhaustion..."
Pg 299: "Obi wan did not like the weariness he saw in the slump of the older man's shoulders, in the bow of his back. He was the best swordsman Obi-Wan had ever seen, but he was growing old"

Pg 200: "His opponent was strong, and had tested him severely. He was getting old, he decided, and he did not like the feeling."



Clearly, TPM Qui Gonn was not Qui-Gonn's prime.


WTF I don't care.

What I do care about is when was his prime, and how much did his age affect his performance.


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What he was like in his prime has NOTHING to do with Maul. We don't know what he was like in his prime, because we don't know how good Mace was when he QGJ were sparring partners.

You are asking for an unknown that doesn't affect our view of Maul ANYWAY. Pull it together man!

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