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Starro the Conqeror vs Blood and Thunder Thor

1. With power gem.

2. Without power gem.

Who wins?

Sep 4th, 2010 12:51 AM

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I'm thinking Starro can lop Thor's head off without the gem.. He did punk Despero, which is better then anyone Thor punked.

With the gem, I'm not so sure.. Thor was matching Thanos, after all.

The Power Gem makes someone unKOable, right? But can someones head still be separated from their body?

Sep 4th, 2010 06:39 AM

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This seems to depend on if Thor's madness is too great to be controlled by Starro. In both scenarios.

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I'm thinking Starro can lop Thor's head off without the gem.. He did punk Despero, which is better then anyone Thor punked.

With the gem, I'm not so sure.. Thor was matching Thanos, after all.

The Power Gem makes someone unKOable, right? But can someones head still be separated from their body?

Usually I'd tell you that there's no chance in hell Starro is going to remove Thor's head but Thor's fighting skills took a bit of plummet during Blood and Thunder. Still, when he faced Pluto who was wielding an axe, he was matching him just fine.

Just because he removed Despero's head, doesn't mean he can do the same to Thor by the way. Despero has some shitty durability at times.

His done that before. Just not as long. That possibility was acknowledged in the same comic.

Maybe on average, but Thor knocked out a Drax who possessed it.

I said it before, and I'll say it again, a no holds barred Thor would be more effective than the Blood and Thunder incarnation.

Anyone who doesn't take him on power vs. power could fare pretty well.

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This seems to depend on if Thor's madness is too great to be controlled by Starro. In both scenarios.

You mean the giant starfish, Starro?

I was thinking more of the humanoid warrior he's been retconned into:

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I don't believe he could control people without his starfish minions, which shouldn't be in this fight.

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Just because he removed Despero's head, doesn't mean he can do the same to Thor by the way. Despero has some shitty durability at times.
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Yeah. but he was also holding his own against a gang pile that included Despero and Tribulus, who's basically a cheap knockoff of Validus and has the feats to back it up, such as easily manhandling and beating Supergirl.

9 galaxies of enslaved beings amping his power.

Too bad Starro had such glaring weaknesses.. Makes you wonder why no one before Dox managed to get the anti starfish poison, or at least figure out a way to cut off his telepathic link with his minions..

Sep 4th, 2010 09:06 AM

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Yeah. but he was also holding his own against a gang pile that included Despero and Tribulus, who's basically a cheap knockoff of Validus and has the feats to back it up, such as easily manhandling and beating Supergirl.

Impressive but that doesn't place him above Thor. You mention Despero, and some people immediately think of some JLA destroying monster. Virtue and Vice was an outlier from what I can tell.

Manhandling Supergirl is something I can see anyone around Wonder Woman level or above doing. Which issue of R.E.B.E.L.S. was this in again?

Still, I think it's fair to assume that Starro would have the edge on Thor physically. At least on an average Thor. He seemed closer to Trans than Elite Top tier.

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9 galaxies of enslaved beings amping his power.

99.9% of those galaxies could be made up of random human level aliens.

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Sep 4th, 2010 09:28 AM

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Manhandling Supergirl is something I can see anyone around Wonder Woman level or above doing. Which issue of R.E.B.E.L.S. was this in again?

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So you cant just dump 50 tonnes of lime on him.

Or do only the flying ones have that weakness.

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And issue 2 had him take her out with a single bolt of mental lightning.

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#1.

And issue 2 had him take her out with a single bolt of mental lightning.

And for what it's worth, when he was being controlled by criminals and they discovered Kryptonians on Earth, their reaction was like "Eh, Tribulus will make short work of them."

Sep 4th, 2010 04:34 PM

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Impressive but that doesn't place him above Thor. You mention Despero, and some people immediately think of some JLA destroying monster. Virtue and Vice was an outlier from what I can tell.

Manhandling Supergirl is something I can see anyone around Wonder Woman level or above doing. Which issue of R.E.B.E.L.S. was this in again?

Still, I think it's fair to assume that Starro would have the edge on Thor physically. At least on an average Thor. He seemed closer to Trans than Elite Top tier.

99.9% of those galaxies could be made up of random human level aliens.

Doesn't matter what level they are he is still horribly amped by them

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Doesn't matter what level they are he is still horribly amped by them

Just look at Mangog. A billion, billion beings. Starro likely exceeds that by a wide margin, considering 9 galaxies under his belt.

Sep 4th, 2010 05:27 PM

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More numbers =/= More power

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Doesn't matter what level they are he is still horribly amped by them

I'm not arguing that his connection to the Galaxies didn't give him a very significant boost in power.

I'm simply pointing out that using the inhabitants of 9 Galaxies as a power source isn't as impressive as it seems on the surface.

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More numbers =/= More power

I'm not arguing that his connection to the Galaxies didn't give him a very significant boost in power.

I'm simply pointing out that using the inhabitants of 9 Galaxies as a power source isn't as impressive as it sounds when you first hear it.

Were Mangogs population super powered?

Amalgams do tend to be much, much greater then the sum of their parts.

Sep 4th, 2010 09:54 PM

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I don't know. Mangog was powered by the sheer hate and negative emotion of the race he was made from, and not how much power they contained.

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You mean the giant starfish, Starro?

I was thinking more of the humanoid warrior he's been retconned into:

Starro hasn't been retconned.

Anywho, WM Thor wins imo. Dude owned guys like Surfer, BRB, Warlock, etc. like they were fodder.

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More numbers =/= More power

I'm not arguing that his connection to the Galaxies didn't give him a very significant boost in power.

I'm simply pointing out that using the inhabitants of 9 Galaxies as a power source isn't as impressive as it seems on the surface.

Even if only .1% of those planets is populated and they only have 1 billion people each thats still billions upon billions of people.

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