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DE Palpatine vs Vader and Caedus
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DE Palpatine vs Vader and Caedus

Browsing some old treads I see DE Palps is thought to be a beast, but how beastly is he? Can Sidious take down Vader and Caedus?

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From the showings of TFU games, vader is a tank, an absolute damage soak with force tk pretty much unrivaled.

Caedus has the highest showings of stamina, pain threshhold, and ability to feed off of his pain, suffering.

I give this to the team.


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Caedus's showing against Luke makes me give it to the team. CLOSE though, Vader becomes mostly a non-factor, but JUST enough to give it to the team.

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Why? Sidious can use his ridiculous DE force lightning to take care of Vader, then win a more difficult fight against CAedus.


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Vader is 80% of Sidious... Not sure how he is going to be a non-factor.

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And as tfu game and novels has shown, force lightening means very little versus vader.

As for why it effected him in the movie, I'm not sure, maybe it was due to vader wanting to lose, to die, for redemption, so he didn't use the force to protect himself?


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It was probably because it's Sidious' lightning which is the strongest form of Force Lightning.


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But can Sids just insta-kill Vader in a combat scenario? In RotJ Vader wasn't going for a fight, he just went to shaft Sids (literally).
Plus there's Caedus. What if Vader attacks Sids with his uber TK and Caedus goes for a lightsaber fight?
I am not sure Sids, even as of DE, is so superior in the force to take them both easily, considering they are also both force beats.


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And as tfu game and novels has shown, force lightening means very little versus vader.

In that game, yes

In Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, Palpatine points out that with one finger he could short circuit the panel on Vaders chest that kept him alive, one zap and Vader would only live for a few moments, the TFU had to make lightning less effective so you would actually have a boss fight instead of a zap i win

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In Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, Palpatine points out that with one finger he could short circuit the panel on Vaders chest that kept him alive, one zap and Vader would only live for a few moments.

I don't rember that. Can you post the passage?

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The tfu novels level of canon is above dark lord isn't it? In that he takes levels of force lightening from marke, who arguably has some of the most powerfullightening shown in the mythos yet.

Thus there is a confliction of canon, and wouldn't tfu novel have the higher canon? Thus its word takes precedence?


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Idk what type of canon either are, but if you asked me i would have said they were equal, and went with Dark Lord cuz Sidious said it, and im pretty sure he had the most powerful lightning in the mythos, Marek disintegrated troopers, but im not sure that was lightning

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The unrevised canon status of Dark Empire is S Canon actually.


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What is the tfu novels' canon?


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C Canon


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And Dark Lord? C as well, or lower?

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The unrevised canon status of Dark Empire is S Canon actually.

No it's not. Quit making shit up.

And Dark Lord is C-canon as is TFU.

Edit: I also checked Dark Lord and saw nothing of the sort Pwned. Please post the passage if it actually exists.

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So then what? DO they cancel eachother out or go with the more logical sense of electricity shorting it out?


Its a huge factor here, if Vader can be mortally wounded in less than half a second after the start of the fight, itll change it all

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Yes, it is. It was made before an active, wide effort had been made to fit everything into continuity. S-Canon.


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Please post the damn passage so if we can actually see that the conflict exists.

Regardless Sidious's lightning is more powerful and Darth Vader could have easily upgraded his suit.

Also Darth Vader can deflect lightning with his lightsaber... So no it won't be an insta-win like some claim.

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