Let's translate that into terms fanbois might like better:
Wonder Woman (assume standard, and not alternate timeline story)
(An above average) Green Lantern (comparable to John, or Guy)
Superman, on a slightly off day
Dr. Strange (w/o being Sorcerer Supreme)
Another Superman-lite, with powerful telepathic abilities
.....
While the ladies' certainly have the diversity of power and muscle to go against Thanos, they would be hard-pressed to handle him: Diana's lasso is unlikely to auto-win against him (though it, coupled with the efforts of the group, can make for one team-win); while PG, WW, and Maxima may, together, likely have greater strength than Thanos, his durability is such that he can take a massive pounding from them and keep going; Max, Z, and SS (with their respective powers) would have to make with *serious* power coupled w/finesse to keep him off balanced for PG and WW to make with effective subdual/blitz attacks...
The team can definitely get wins, but not without attrition; I'd have to think about the spread. Zatanna, though, *definitely* has to go on defensive maneuvers, from the get-go, as she is by far the most vulnerable of the group (though, ironically enough, also the most versatile, and therefore arguably the most needed)...
For now, I'm saying Thanos for a simple majority... might adjust that in a later post, after thinking about likely, credible outcomes...
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Last edited by tideoftime on Nov 28th, 2010 at 06:03 AM
Whilst i dont wholly agree with him, I have to sy that tideoftime's post is perhaps the best ive seen so far on KMC. Its very 2 sided and was a pleasure to read compared to the norm.
I would question whether Thanos will absorb Starp Sapphire's powers and how powerful Maxima currently is as key factors here as both could be possible instant kills which really shifts the balance of the fight.
If the team rely on a star saphhire shield to protect them all or Zatanna temporarily this could also go very wrong for them.
Well, to look at it objectively, while Thanos is very powerful, PG can tank/endure her share of his blasts/punches before going down; WW can resist his blasts via her bracers (and possibly her Aegis Effect, if things get dire), and can endure a number of his punches (if she can take blows from Mongul/Superman, she can take a few from Thanos); and Maxima's TK shields, coupled with her own durability, allow her to at least endure a measure of attacks. SS might be able to handle one or two full-on attacks, but her shields won't hold against a sustained beam, and if he gets his hands on her for even a second, she's down. Same with Zatanna -- she's *got* to stay protected and/or mobile via teleportation if she's going to survive.
My point to the above is this: some of the Marvelites are disregarding much of the team members abilities to either directly endure (PG, WW, Max), or at least avoid/ablate (SS, Z), "x" number of Thanos' blasts and/or physical assaults. As a group, they are going to have casualties, but they have the overall strength, defense, and range of powers to get wins against even the likes of Thanos (both by the sum total of their abilities, and by the synergy advantage of having a 5-on-1 assault).
Decided to go from simple majority for Thanos to a split, with caveats for setting, relative factors, etc...
EDIT: Oh, and thank you for the complement -- *that* is also something not seen very often around these parts...
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Last edited by tideoftime on Nov 29th, 2010 at 06:42 PM
While you point out that these ladies can take blows from Thanos (don't really agree)... what you fail to mention is he can CERTAINLY take blows from these ladies... and even more of them.
i see thanos starting off with a shield raised and maybe a finger transportation blast... at the end of the day when he realizes how serious these women are an omni blast would be his last resort which would kill at least one of them and weaken the rest.
i guess it really comes down to what thanos knows about him or if he even acknowledges them from the get go...
if he finds them a non threat he wont raise a shield and would get pummeled
Well... Maxima is dead at the moment, so we can only really base her participation in this fight based on her average showings.
As for relying on SS or Zatanna, you could easily argue that a higher end magic spell (e.g. the Esrepsid spell used to temporarily stun and HARM a fully evolved sun eater) could be used to stun Thanos and/or weaken his defenses long enough for heavy hitters like PG, WW, and Maxima to go in for a physical assault.
How strong is Thanos' telepathic resistance? I would assume he'd be largely immune, but Maxima and Zatanna are two of the most powerful telepaths in DC comics.
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