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X Men versus Push

All the "mutants" from the movie "Push":

Watchers: Watchers have the ability to foresee the future to varying degrees. As knowledge of the future invariably causes that future to change, Watchers' visions of the future in their direct sphere of influence are subject to frequent shifting.

Movers: Movers are powerful telekinetics who are trained to identify the specific atomic frequency of a given material and alter the gravitational field around it, usually causing the nearby air to appear warped. This allows them to move both animate and inanimate objects. Advanced Movers can work at the molecular level, creating protective force fields in the air around them or to reinforce punches and other strikes to make them stronger.

Pushers: Pushers have the ability to implant memories, thoughts and emotions into the minds of other people in order to manipulate them. The skill level of the Pusher determines how many people the Pusher is able to control at one time, and how vivid the implanted memories are. A powerful Pusher can push a large group of people at the same time, basically creating a personal army. A Pusher is able to make a person do anything the Pusher desires, even commit suicide. A Pusher's eyes indicate how powerful they are: their pupils will dilate to certain degrees depending on how powerful the push is (for example, Henry Carver's eyes are rendered completely black, signifying that he is an extremely able and effective Pusher).

Bleeders: Bleeders have the ability to emit high-pitched sonic vibrations that cause ruptures in a target's blood vessels. While using this ability, their pupils turn into vertical slits, like a snake's, because of synthetic materials implanted in them to protect the blood vessels from the effects of their own ability. They are also sometimes known as Screechers or Screamers.

Sniffs: Sniffs are highly developed psychometrics who can track the location of people or objects over varying distances. Like bloodhounds, their ability is increased if they have tactile access to an object that has been in direct contact with the subject. Sniffs receive information in the form of images, which is why identifiable landmarks help increase their effectiveness.

Shifters: Shifters can temporarily alter the appearance of an object by manipulating the patterns of light interacting with it. Once the illusion is established, it remains with the object for a short period of time. For example, a Shifter could touch a one dollar bill and alter it to appear as a one hundred dollar bill until the effect expires. The object shifted must have roughly the same dimensions as the object it is shifted into. The length of time that the effect will last is based on the Shifter's experience and ability.

Wipers: Wipers are skilled at either temporarily or permanently erasing memory, an invaluable asset in espionage. Experience will dictate the accuracy of their wipes, though there is always the danger that they will eliminate a desired memory.

Shadows: Shadows are trained to block the vision of other clairvoyants such as Sniffs, making any subject within their target radius appear "dark". Experience will enhance the size of the area they can shadow and the intensity of their shielding effect. Shadows need to be awake to manifest their ability, so it is common for a detail of two Shadows to operate in shifts while protecting a person or object for extended periods. Most Shadows are effective only against Sniffs, but some extremely powerful Shadows are able to block even Watchers.

Stitches: Stitches are psychic surgeons trained to quickly reconstruct cells to their previous or healthy state. Using only their hands, they can heal and even "unheal" whatever they have done. For more detailed work, Stitches use a silver based cream on their hands which acts as a conductor for their ability.


Versus all of the mutants from the X Men movies.



The Push crew are all banded together and have decided to take on the X Men mutants, who they view as a threat. The X Men mutants put their differences aside and team up to defeat the Push crew. The fight takes place all over the world, and both sides can use any and all resources to win. This is not necessarily a fight to the death, just to the win, incapacitation can achieve victory. Jean Grey is Jean Grey here, not Dark Phoenix. No Cerebro bullshit either.


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Prof X is beyond anything we saw a Pusher do. This is a win for the real mutants; the Push crew simply doesn't have enough offense.


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X can mind rape, yes, but so can a few of the Pushers. The chick was mind raping large groups of asians at once and controlling them like puppets.

Also, X is easily taken out by a bleeder. The Pushers have more than enough offense to win this.

Also, the Pushers have watchers, invaluable here.


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Xavier is too much, he froze an entire mall full of people and altered their memories accordingly. He doesn't have to see who he's affecting, he merely thinks and finds minds.


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The mutants win based on overall ability and confirmed superior numbers. And to add to that the most powerful pusher was Keera and she only controlled at max five people at a time at the end of the movie. The watchers can be compared to a man tied to the train tracks. He may see the train coming but he cant do anything about it, same applies here. To even add to that they also used for the most part human muscle to enforce and control these decisions as far as I an remember and the only odd thing was a Bleeder or Sniffer which most mutants should be able to take care of.


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msybe they do have the offense, but they're not overcoming the sheer numbers. We can only use the the people we saw in the movies, not presumed characters. Also, the watchers can only watch one person, iirc.


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This is where Watchers come into play. They can see the future, like Alice the Twivamp. They can see where X is at a point in the future and send a bleeder to **** him up. Also, likely a Shadow will affect X's abilities.


Seeing the future>>>>WIN.


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how many watchers were there in Push? 2 or 3? Also, didn't the watchers need to know the person in order to watch the person's decisions? They don't even know who Prof X is...


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This is where Watchers come into play. They can see the future, like Alice the Twivamp. They can see where X is at a point in the future and send a bleeder to **** him up. Also, likely a Shadow will affect X's abilities.


Seeing the future>>>>WIN.


I don't recall Push all that well, but unless they can TP right on Xavier and ripe his throat out in a second, they're ****ed. He'll sense them coming; know their intent (though I assume he knows as this is a battle) and make them believe they're Japanese school-girls. He's got range.


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how many watchers were there in Push? 2 or 3? Also, didn't the watchers need to know the person in order to watch the person's decisions? They don't even know who Prof X is...



There were three I think, two saw the future clearly, one was a novice. The asian chick was uber.

All my threads here, the combatants have at least general knowledge of their enemy.


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general knowledge is all fine and well. But I'm pretty sure the watchers needed some sort of contact with their target before being able to watch them... just knowing that Xavier is a person they need to kill, isn't enough to watch him.


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I believe that was where the sniffers came in and they still needed a personal item of his. Anyway who are they going to send if the even manage to locate the mutants? Anyone sent will be killed once you get into the most important people. Imagine them sending a Sniffer and a Bleeder against magneto in one of Magnetos own places. It'll be suicide.


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Originally posted by marwash22
general knowledge is all fine and well. But I'm pretty sure the watchers needed some sort of contact with their target before being able to watch them... just knowing that Xavier is a person they need to kill, isn't enough to watch him.
Not true. The young watcher was watching Chris Evans' character before they even met.


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I believe that was where the sniffers came in and they still needed a personal item of his. Anyway who are they going to send if the even manage to locate the mutants? Anyone sent will be killed once you get into the most important people. Imagine them sending a Sniffer and a Bleeder against magneto in one of Magnetos own places. It'll be suicide.
You're kidding, right? One bleeder will take out multiple mutants, man. And Push TK was more powerful than X Men TK.

One bleeder>>>Any X Men.


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i've only seen push in bits and pieces..

however the mutants seem to be to much for them


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Mutants stomp.

Xavier can use his powers to "freeze" everyone like he did in XM2. Jean Gray could also take down any "mover" or "bleeder" with absolute ease, as could Magneto and Storm.

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i've only seen push in bits and pieces..

however the mutants seem to be to much for them
How you figure? Push TK is stronger, a Bleeder can take out scores of mutants, and pushers can mind rape as easily as Xavier can. Besides, Xavier is mind raping no one if a bleeder is ****ing him up.

Not to mention the Stitchers who can kill you just by touching you, and the watchers, who can see the future. Shadows will at the very least hinder Xavier.




Seeing the future, dude. Think about it. The Push crew is way too strong. Do I really need to post youtube clips?


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X-men. They outnumber and outclass the Push team overall.

Key Mutants in a fight:

* Professor X

* Jason Stryker

* Juggernaut (Unstopibol)

* Nightcrawler (Unstopibol)

* Deadpool (Unstopibol)

* Wolverine

* Lady Deathstrike

* Shadow Cat (Unstopibol)

* Mystique

* Colossus

* Magneto

* Cyclops

* Rogue

* John Wraith (Teleporter with guns)

* Kitty Pryde (Makes Prof X intangible and they go on a mind-rape spree, shes also unstopibol herself)

* Siryn

* Psylocke

* Callisto (Locate mutants = good game?)

* Multiple Man (100 decoys anyone?)

* Storm

* Sabretooth

* Agent Zero

* Emma Frost (Unstopibol)



Others:

* Jean Grey

* Ice Man

* Pyro

* Silverfox

* Bradley

* Gambit

* Blob

* Toad

* Beast

* Wade Wilson

* All of Magneto's Army mutants in X3

* All mutants kidnapped in Origins

* All mutants at Xavier Institute


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How you figure? Push TK is stronger, a Bleeder can take out scores of mutants, and pushers can mind rape as easily as Xavier can. Besides, Xavier is mind raping no one if a bleeder is ****ing him up.

Not to mention the Stitchers who can kill you just by touching you, and the watchers, who can see the future. Shadows will at the very least hinder Xavier.




Seeing the future, dude. Think about it. The Push crew is way too strong. Do I really need to post youtube clips?



its simple really, they have no answer for Xavier, or Jean who could prolly solo... nor do they have an answer for Logan who could solo as well..


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X-men. They outnumber and outclass the Push team overall.

Key Mutants in a fight:

* Professor X

* Jason Stryker

* Juggernaut (Unstopibol)

* Nightcrawler (Unstopibol)

* Deadpool (Unstopibol)

* Wolverine

* Lady Deathstrike

* Shadow Cat (Unstopibol)

* Mystique

* Colossus

* Magneto

* Cyclops

* Rogue

* John Wraith (Teleporter with guns)

* Kitty Pryde (Makes Prof X intangible and they go on a mind-rape spree, shes also unstopibol herself)

* Siryn

* Psylocke

* Callisto (Locate mutants = good game?)

* Multiple Man (100 decoys anyone?)

* Storm

* Sabretooth

* Agent Zero

* Emma Frost (Unstopibol)



Others:

* Jean Grey

* Ice Man

* Pyro

* Silverfox

* Bradley

* Gambit

* Blob

* Toad

* Beast

* Wade Wilson

* All of Magneto's Army mutants in X3

* All mutants kidnapped in Origins

* All mutants at Xavier Institute
I actually meant the X Men themselves, not all the mutants. My fault for ****ing up the OP. Even so, the Pushers have the entire Division and the Triad on their side.

All Mutants versus the Pushers, the Division and the Triad, and yeah, the X Men mutants are far outnumbered.


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