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Emperor Joker vs Chaos King

Both at their Prime.

Who wins?


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Emperor Joker. Pretty easily too.


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Emperor Joker. Pretty easily too.


What is Joker going to do? :/

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Why dont you tell us what CK will do, since you disagree? It'd be ever so helpful in a rebuttal.


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chaos king destroyed like 98.8 percent of the multiverse right?

i remember emperor joker only being universal


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Nope, Worlds Funnest and Crisis Times Five says 5d imps are multiversal. (Heaven, and by extension the Presence himself was worried about the invasion.)

Also, Supergod Herc was high skyfather level at best, and he stood up to CK. Eternity refused to even defend himself, because "He's me", further implying CK isn't really that powerful overall..


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CK.

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Nope, Worlds Funnest and Crisis Times Five says 5d imps are multiversal. (Heaven, and by extension the Presence himself was worried about the invasion.)

Also, Supergod Herc was high skyfather level at best, and he stood up to CK. Eternity refused to even defend himself, because "He's me", further implying CK isn't really that powerful overall..


Super God Hercules was well beyond skyfather unless your saying all skyfathers that are have beaten to death have enough power to restore 98% of the mutliverse??


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Ck wins.


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I still think "multiverse" was just referring to the 616 and it's surrounding dimensions. Considering we were only ever shown him effecting the God dimensions and not alternate universes.

Plus he was Eternity level and the most powerful person he did anything to was a hungry Galactus and a Hercules that was amped off an amp that made absolute zero sense.
But then again... Pak

Carver you also made this thread after people thought he could beat the IG. You usually step up from there not severely down. erm


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Emperor Joker. Pretty easily too.
The zopster is correct. thumb up


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Super God Hercules was well beyond skyfather unless your saying all skyfathers that are have beaten to death have enough power to restore 98% of the mutliverse??


Maybe not all, but Odin certainly has the feats to restore the space they called a multiverse.

And think about it, if it really was talking EVERYTHING, then shunting CK to a dead universe to spread out in shouldn't have stopped him.


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I still think "multiverse" was just referring to the 616 and it's surrounding dimensions.

Considering we were only ever shown him effecting the God dimensions and not alternate universes.

But there's only one kind of "multiverse" in Marvel old friend, ... so, if that term was included, then, it was "the multiverse,"
the "multiverse" that houses the 616 reality. Unless Pak used it improperly and meant something else.

btw. For those who may not know: Asgard, Olympus, Celtic, etc, are all located far beyond 616. Always have been.


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But there's only one kind of "multiverse" in Marvel old friend, ... so, if that term was included, then, it was "the multiverse,"
the "multiverse" that houses the 616 reality. Unless Pak used it improperly and meant something else.

btw. For those who may not know: Asgard, Olympus, Celtic, etc, are all located far beyond 616. Always have been.
Like I said, all the dimensions surrounding 616 he ate could technically be called a multiverse. And more importantly, he was shown to effect exactly zero full fledged universes except 616.

Usually someone effecting 98.something percent of an actual multiverse would include an alternate universe anywhere in the story, and not focus so much on Godling dimensions instead.


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But there's only one kind of "multiverse" in Marvel old friend, ... so, if that term was included, then, it was "the multiverse,"
the "multiverse" that houses the 616 reality. Unless Pak used it improperly and meant something else.

btw. For those who may not know: Asgard, Olympus, Celtic, etc, are all located far beyond 616. Always have been.


Didn't know that. Always figured the nine realms were subdimensions of 616

Edit: Were you for or against the Infinity Gauntlet being multiversal?

Because I just realized Thanos banishing Asgard implies more then universal effect, if it's a seperate reality entirely...


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Like I said, all the dimensions surrounding 616 he ate could technically be called a multiverse.

How many dimensions did he affect?

In Marvel, a "multiverse" is an infinite amount of universeS.

If a specific number (less than infinite) of realities was established on panel, ... then it's a multi-universal feat.
If no exact number was given, ... and then the term "multiverse" is thrown in, then it's the infinite multiverse.
We just have to assume the rest of creation was affected off-panel.

The term "universe" has had unique/specific occasions when it meant more,
but the term "multiverse" always means just that, and nothing less.

Then again, Pak could've f'd up.


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^^ You'd be surprised how many cats (even vets) don't or didn't know that fact. I have tons of proof if ever interested btw.

How many dimensions did he affect?

In Marvel, a "multiverse" is an infinite amount of universeS.

If a specific number (less than infinite) of realities was established on panel, ... then it's a multi-universal feat.
If no exact number was given, ... and then the term "multiverse" is thrown in, then it's the infinite multiverse.
We just have to assume the rest of creation was affected off-panel.

The term "universe" has had unique/specific occasions when it meant more,
but the term "multiverse" always means just that, and nothing less.

Then again, Pak could've f'd up.
He went around eating every single dimension of the Gods. The Chinese God realms. The Egyptian God Realms. The Greek God Realms. Probably Asgard and the shit involving it, don't remember. And some other non chinese realms.

The only "universe" involved was 616. Not universe 2578, not universe 15790, and not even universe 111111112. Just 616. But like you said, Pak.

It seems like a stretch to me when we assume he ate a ****ton of universes when he was only equal to Eternity and not even universe 161 was involved.

In that sort of situation it again seems like the splits are being done while your head is between your legs, and you're touching both your feet with your hands. Upside down.


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Like I said, all the dimensions surrounding 616 he ate could technically be called a multiverse. And more importantly, he was shown to effect exactly zero full fledged universes except 616.

Usually someone effecting 98.something percent of an actual multiverse would include an alternate universe anywhere in the story, and not focus so much on Godling dimensions instead.

Your theory makes sense to me.
I've always thought of the different Companies as having their own multiverses, like wheels that may or may not intersect in spots (for crossovers).

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CK didn't just absorb the multiverse,save 616,he also absorbed the powers of gods and abstracts alike....I'd wager he beats king joker

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