Gandalf (is not be a human but a Majar)
Balrog were both Maiar, they were beings of the same order. As they faced each other, Gandalf said, "You cannot pass!", and broke the Bridge beneath the Balrog. As it fell, the Balrog wrapped its whip about Gandalf's knees, dragging him to the brink. As the Fellowship looked on in horror, Gandalf cried "Fly, you fools!" and fell.
After the long fall, the two landed in a subterranean lake, which extinguished the flames of the Balrog's body; however it remained "a thing of slime, stronger than a strangling snake". They fought in the water, with the Balrog clutching at Gandalf to strangle him, and Gandalf hewing the Balrog with his sword, until finally the Balrog fled into ancient tunnels of unknown origin. Gandalf pursued the creature for eight days, until they climbed to the peak of Zirakzigil, where the Balrog was forced to turn and fight once again, its body erupting into new flame. Here they fought for two days and nights. In the end, the Balrog was defeated and cast down, breaking the mountainside where it fell "in ruin".[24] Gandalf himself died following this ordeal, but he was later sent back to Middle-earth with even greater powers, as Gandalf the White, "until his task was finished". Tolkien does not reveal the ultimate fate of the Balrog.
Balrogs are fictional demonic beings who appear in J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium. Such creatures first appeared in print in his novel The Lord of the Rings, though they figured in earlier writings that posthumously appeared in The Silmarillion and other books.
Balrogs are described as tall and menacing with the ability to shroud themselves in fire, darkness, and shadow. They frequently appeared armed with fiery whips "of many thongs", and occasionally used long swords. In Tolkien's later conception, they could not be casually destroyed; significant power was required. Only dragons rivalled their capacity for ferocity and destruction, and during the First Age of Middle-earth, they were among the most feared of Morgoth's forces.
I have not seen Immortals, but I will say this regarding the Balrog/LOTR:
The thing about LOTR is most people already have preconceived notions based on the novels and it affects their views in MVF whether they like to admit it or not. This is obvious when people describe feats in a manner that seems far exaggerated to people who have not read the books.
Based on just the movies though, the magic in LOTR does not deserve the hype it receives. This is coming from someone who has not read the books, and I don't believe I have any particular bias against LOTR either.
And apart from that gods from the Greek mythology are weak since need people for the help in the fight, so there is my opinion and I think that gods from LOTR smash them to dust in one second.
This is movie based only you can't argue based off of the hyperbole found in the books. Force can hurt the Balrog and the Titans are quick enough and powerful enough to overwhelm the greek gods who made humans look entirely irrelevant. Gandalf for the most part didn't make any orcs or such look even half as lame as the gods did to the humans when they intervened.
Anybody remember that? Numbers don't matter when your fighting a 25 foot tall (it seemed that tall to me) flaming demon.
The quote itself is paraphrased, I cant remember the exact wording, but it applies nonetheless. I saw Gandalf's sword barely do anything. It was a lightning bolt that brought it down in the movie. The Titans cant do that.
Yes, there was a handful of foes who cannot move anywhere near to the speed of the Titans. The Titans were overwhelming gods who showed the speed to easily dominate like 8 guys in the span of a few seconds without the time to even react to him.
To act like the Titans weapons wouldn't weather the Balrog is just wishful thinking. Gandalf looked like a peasant in combat against orcs, etc. compared to the gods.
Gandalf's feats are random being that he's a mage of Old Magic.
His feats are comparable to the environment and situation around him. When Gandalf appeared before the Fellowship he made their weapons unuseable and overwhelmed them. Yet when he fought those Orks it was close to being the end of the humans, therefore his faith/magic was weakening.
The magic Gandalf commands isn't a bunch of spells he spams. Lightning bolt, fireball, teleport ect. He asks and he receives what the powers that be give him.
The fight was so devastating that that Gandalf obtained the next level of enlightenment. The Titans are a bunch of high powered animals. They don't have the tools to put it down.
The Titans have swords and may be fast but what are they exactly going to do the Balrog?
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Last edited by the ninjak on Dec 5th, 2011 at 05:21 AM
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Nov 21st, 2011 05:02 AM
Please be serious. The Titans would overwhelm the Balrog.
