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Citizen Steele vs Superman fist fight

This is a fist fight...no bfring....who wins?

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Feb 13th, 2012 01:09 AM

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spite. what is superman going to do in a pure slugfest?

Feb 13th, 2012 01:21 AM

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If it's a slugfest, Citizen Steel all the way.

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reflex feats for citizen steel?

slug fest doesn't mean that superman can't use his speed. just that he can't fly.

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Steel's not particularly fast. If speed's allow, then Clark can avoid him.

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I don't see why speed wouldn't be allowed.

If its not allowed, its basically saying; Superman is letting him get hits.

If speed was explicitly stated to be equalized, that's another thing.

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Citizen steel.

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Citizen steel.

WTF?

Galan...is that you?

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I did a double take as well.

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I don't recall CS having any speed feats above a typical human. Nor do I recall it being implied that he was faster than a human.

If Superman is allowed to use even a fraction of his speed advantage, he'd win. If it's just trading blows, CS will be the last man standing.

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WTF?

Galan...is that you?

What's so surprising carvy?

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I don't recall CS having any speed feats above a typical human. Nor do I recall it being implied that he was faster than a human.

If Superman is allowed to use even a fraction of his speed advantage, he'd win. If it's just trading blows, CS will be the last man standing.

Still not convinced of the last part.

Why does CS necessarily win if they simply take turns punching each other?

Feb 13th, 2012 06:02 PM

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Still not convinced of the last part.

Why does CS necessarily win if they simply take turns punching each other?

I'm guessing people are going off the Gog battle. KC SUperman couldn't budge him, then Steel rocked him when his suit was ripped.

Although, there WAS that incidednt with Black Lantern KC Supes...

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I'm guessing people are going off the Gog battle. KC SUperman couldn't budge him, then Steel rocked him when his suit was ripped.

Although, there WAS that incidednt with Black Lantern KC Supes...

That... And the fact that CS was able to down 3rd-World Gog, with a mere two punches:
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Not even the combined efforts of the entire JSA (inc. KC Superman, Alan Scott, Obsidian, Thunderbolt, etc.) were able to come close to doing that:
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Don't get me wrong, CS isn't without his low feats (which, imo, can be written off as PIS considering his history), but he should still take a slug-fest with Supes. Even if Superman managed to move CS with his blows, I don't see him causing any lasting damage. Hits from CS, on the other hand, would f*ck Supes up royally.

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I forgot how much I liked Starman lol.

Although, based on what the Thunderbolt can do, is it not PIS for Gog to fall to Steel?

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I'm guessing people are going off the Gog battle. KC SUperman couldn't budge him, then Steel rocked him when his suit was ripped.

Although, there WAS that incidednt with Black Lantern KC Supes...

That and the fight with the JSA wrecker Gog. Gog koed KC Superman but was unable to do anything to nathan other than move him slightly. The only low showing of citizen steel was when BL Kal-L simply knocked him away telling him a "paperweight".

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Although, based on what the Thunderbolt can do, is it not PIS for Gog to fall to Steel?

Depends what Jakeem ordered T-Bolt to do--which, knowing Jakeem, was probably nothing special.

I mean, we've only seen Jakeem 'let loose' with T-Bolt one time (when he was evil/insane), and when that happened, Jak conquered several dimensions.

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The only low showing of citizen steel was when BL Kal-L simply knocked him away telling him a "paperweight".

Power Girl moved him, as well. THAT defines PIS, imo.

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Depends what Jakeem ordered T-Bolt to do--which, knowing Jakeem, was probably nothing special.

I mean, we've only seen Jakeem 'let loose' with T-Bolt one time (when he was evil/insane), and when that happened, Jak conquered several dimensions.

Power Girl moved him, as well. THAT defines PIS, imo.

Move him? What do you mean by that? Does he have Blob powers? What's so special about "moving" him?

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Originally posted by Galan007
Depends what Jakeem ordered T-Bolt to do--which, knowing Jakeem, was probably nothing special.

I mean, we've only seen Jakeem 'let loose' with T-Bolt one time (when he was evil/insane), and when that happened, Jak conquered several dimensions.

Power Girl moved him, as well. THAT defines PIS, imo.

Not really, its called low showings. With geoff johns, who knows which character is at what power level on a given day?

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