Yes there is. Peak Luke= Peak Anakin, the same Peak Anakin who was able to demolish someone like Dooku in seconds. He is a head above all combatants. Luke would down Krayt in 30 seconds tops, then mop up a slightly depleted Bane with Yoda. This scenario is a stomp. Luke's stamina will let him down Krayt and still be fairly fresh.
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Yoda takes down Krayt in...eh 45 seconds-minute, then goes to assist Luke in taking down an exhausted Bane. This scenario isn't a stomp.
Krayt's the weak link here, and they're up against two of the most powerful Jedi to ever live. If you replaced him with say, Sidious, then we'd have a real interesting match.
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Last edited by Lord Stark on Mar 18th, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Prime Luke is overrated. He has no stellar lightsaber feats that would put him much above Bane or Krayt and he barely utilises his Force powers in combat or offensively. He is definitely one of the most powerful beings ever but he's not going to be stomping either combatant. Dude had trouble with Lumiya as well as plenty of other random fights. An all-pwning Force-God he is not.
On the other hand, Krayt is underrated. He's at least on or above Dooku level and we all know Yoda isn't taking out Dooku inside of a minute.
He's stated to be on par with what Prime Anakin would have been. That's good enough for me. He doesn't need to be an all-pwning force God to down Krayt in 30 seconds, just prime ROTS Anakin level.
I'm not underrating Krayt. Anakin when in the zone downed Dooku in the space of 30 seconds if not less. Luke could likely replicate that feat. He's got the strength, the stamina, hell he even has Anakin's style; Djem So.
And yeah, I can see Yoda downing Dooku in a minute if he's going all out. Hell Yoda going all out disarmed Sidious in what a minute-minute? A minute and a half? I'd say 2 minutes tops.
The actual quote is a bit different. And his actual combat performances are quite a bit less than that lofty extreme. Unless you think he's literally twice as powerful as Sidious.
Hell no, I think that's the dumbest thing Lucas could have said. I doubt any Jedi or Sith in the verse could ever dream of taking on 2 Sidiouses. But I think Luke is more or less when focused ~ Zoneakin in raw swordsmanship.
That doesn't translate into swordsmanship. It's an ambiguous statement without context and ignores his actual feats. For all we know Lucas was talking about his quality as a person, not a warrior. Even if he was, that still doesn't translate into swordsmanship.
Whats funny is that you're the guy who was lecturing me about relying solely on quotes a few days ago.
Perhaps, but defeating Darth Sidious before you even hit your prime comes to mind in terms of his feats. Also in terms of force feats he has
Absorbed turbolaser blasts from AT-ATs, and knocked them over.
Destroying the Fortress of Darth Vader
Manipulation of a micro black hole.
Twenty Lightsabers at once feat as of NJO. (Still not peak of his power)
Electric Judgement.
Stated that when hunkered down not even the black hole at the center of the galaxy could move him (possibly hyperbole but still).
I'm not relying solely on quotes. Luke has significant feats to back up his claim. To rank him with ROTS Zoneakin in sabers really doesn't seem far-fetched to me, especially considering Zoneakin isn't even Anakin with maxxed potential.
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