Necrom, when he became the Anti-Phoenix (which was nothing more than the sliver of the PF he ripped from Feron), caused Merlyn to go into hiding (even using his daughter, Roma, as bait) until Excalibur dealt with him.
The Goblin Force destroyed the PF, Galactus, and devastated the entire race of Celestials of it's reality.
Maddie w/Goblin Force would/should wreck Merlyn.
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Good ol' Merlyn antics to teach a lesson.
Zop,
Excalibur team was allowed to absorb a "portion" of Merlyn's power source (Energy Matrix)
and they were able to Reverse and re-build
a Multiversal compression collapsing All realitieS.
Necrom was a complete joke next to Merlyn son.
And come at me with them scans of Merlyn supposedly "hiding" I'll
return with the scans of Merlyn letting it be known it was part of the
grand manipulation.
... heck, you only have to see Merlyn's feats in comparison with Necron's top showing/potential,
and it tells you everything.
And Merlyn fused the Life-Force of the entire Omniverse into tiny crystals ...
.. crack a crystal, erase an entire universe, any universe you wish.
Or, we also have Otherworld, (a Pan-Dimensional Reality)
which just happens to contain the Starlight Citadel (an Omniversal Nexus)
All created by Merlyn.
I'll like to see Necrom creating a Galaxy at-least.
No?
How about destroying one?
No.
Meh, I know, battling Rachel a few planets were wrecked.
lol
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Oh, and before you make the error ..
... do Not try and present the Multiversal collapse as Necrom's doing.
He wishes he had that kind of power.
Necrom was full of it and got called on it.
The Collapse was courtesy of the Energy Matrix itself!
It was slowly compressing all realities from its inception,
Way before Necrom even dreamed about trying to usurp its energy source.
A dream that never came even close to fruition.
Merlyn wrecks Maddie w/Goblin Force and Necron and Rachel combined.
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Faking your death (saying he "required a period of.....anonymity" aka HIDING), using your own daughter and humans as pawns says it all. He didn't even want to repair the energy matrix lest Necrom get a glimpse of him and start a fight (again BEFORE Necrom merged with the Anti-Phoenix).
He saw Necrom as a dangerous foe even BEFORE he merged with the Anti-Phoenix sliver.
Goblyn Force Maddie wrecks him.
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^^ GF didn't absorb that alternate Beyonder.
Anyway, that Beyonder was a shell by the time GF got it.
Also, Betsy smacked up Merlyn years after he disconnected from the Energy Matrix.
Yea, in that same arc, Merlyn got his entire torso blown out by Jaspers,
and he didn't even flinch, and then reformed his torso like it never happened.
Yet, Betsy can hand to hand his ass to him.
Sorry jack, you don't Merlyn.
I could care less about plot induced theatrics by Merlyn.
Necrom couldn't put down heroes!
Again, Necrom's feats? With great effort he was able to destroy a Solar System,
plant by planet.
... uhh, wow? ...
*** Necrom was handled by KyLun! (a b-list hero)
Kylun stabs Necrom's Psychic projection and makes him scream lol:
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zop, I like ya, ... but this is shit talk.
Guess you don't recognize context friend.
This is both at the height of their power right,
not story book conflicted characters with pis/cis all over them.
You're argument is based on ... misunderstanding.
Because due to plot, Merlyn decided not to battle Necrom,
because plot called for Rachel to do that,
now you're under the assumption that Merlyn is either below
or than Necrom.
Faulty logic.
Especially when Excalibur was shown just tapping Merlyns power,
and they performed a ridiculous feat which Necrom could never
dream of achieving.
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Anyway, Merlyn at his best ...
Merlyn can fuse the Life-Force of the entire Omniverse
with little crystals to shatter at will with the CN.
Merlyn can create from Nothingness
an infinite Universe that's a multi-dimensional actuality. (Otherworld)
Merlyn can create the Starlight Citadel, an Omniversal Nexus
that can itself can explode entire universes.
Excalibur team can tap Merlyn's power source,
and reverse a freakin Multiversal collapse and rebuild the
Multiverse entire in one swoop.
Merlyn can merged with his infinite universe Otherworld, and become abstract.
Meggan can absorb the power of Otherwolrd (Merlyn's creation/power base)
and give pause to the incredible Chaos Wave.
Merlyn manipulates the fate of the prime Multiverse
on a chess board for crying out loud.
~~~> still LOL at your comment that my scans work against me. lol
lol ... she took out the ever weak sauce PF of Reality 1298 (Xorn shattered the prime PF)
beat up the alternate Galactus of that reality,
and "devastated" the race of Celestials of that reality
before getting owned herself.
That's it?
That's what you're pinning against everything above concerning Merlyn?
LOL!
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Mr M my friend, it wasn't just a plot device, it was the WHOLE REASON EXCALIBUR WAS CREATED. Everything from Excalibur 1-50 including the two special issues was Merlyn scheming to get Excalibur to deal with Necrom while Merlyn hid and faked his death, even being reduced to using his own daughter as a pawn and bait.
I posted the scans, it's not like I'm making this up; it's right there on panel.
Yes the GF destroyed an ALT reality PF and yes it destroyed an ALT reality Galactus...BUT those "alt" reality Celestials are basically 616 Celestials (the Celestials are multiversal). The GF DEVASTATED their ENTIRE RACE in that universe.
Merlyn hid from a guy Kylun caused problems for.
GF Maddie laughs her way to victory.
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..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.
"Merlyn's origins are shrouded in mystery & misinformation,
much of which he deliberately spread himself ... Merlyn seems to encourage this confusion,
seeing ALL Existence as a series of endless chess games for Omniversal survival ... Anything he tells others about himself is suspect,
and eye witness accounts of his actions are unreliable since Merlyn is a master illusionist.
Even his daughter claims Not to truly know who Merlyn is."
Merlyn is, ... the greatest manipulator of all.
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If it wasn't for Moore on panel calling Jaspers "God" ... and the fact that JJ
actually remade 616 in his image,
on top of being seeing by Cobweb in a future where he wasn't stopped
by his one true plot, "Fury" where the entire Omniverse was cancelled as Merlyn predicted,
plus, Merlyn literally stating that he tried to stop 238 Jaspers' warp
and it "thwarted" his abilities ...
Yes, if it wasn't for all that,
I would honestly believe that Merlyn > Jaspers ...
and Not stopping JJ personally was due to Roma's training
when they had the Prime Multiverse being manipulated on freakin Chessboards
and 616 Jaspers was a piece on the board. lol
So, it could be a bit confusing,
but when we see Jaspers' accomplishments and potential,
it clears things up for us more clearly.
JJ was simply "God" withIN his warp, a warp that spread at an exponential rate,
and sooner than later, the warp would engulf what was outside of it,
until there's nothing left to overwhelm.
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So that said and that aside ... WHAT the heck has Nercom done,
or who has he defeated that inspires such high regards on your part?
Cause for the life of me, I ... don't ... get .... it.
This is laughable Zop, seriously.
You're actually attributing the GF defeating NOW supposedly
"multiversal" Celestials because one issuein an off-mainstream title
had some box made by Celestials CLAIM that Celestials had
something to do with the creation of the original
universe/multiverse.
Wait ... ... are you high, or serious?
I mean, that arc came out about 13 freakin YEARS AGO! ... lol
Celestials aren't "multiversal" funny guy,
Franklin and many others have proven that,
time and time again. (in many arcs/stories/bios) unlike that comedy you just claimed.
I see, you gots nothing,
but the ol' 'I'll stick to in-book story plots' to define a vs match.
Merlyn points at GQ and Necrom and explodes the entire Universe they're in,
like he did in "Chaos Engine/Magneto"
Don't have time right now to crop the page but here's a taste until then:
Mr. M, wall of text aside, you've yet to disprove what was stated on panel by Merlyn himself.
You say he's a master manipulator well he is. He faked his death, used his daughter as a pawn and groomed Exaclibur to deal with Necrom because he was scared to confront Necrom calling him a "dangerous foe".
This was BEFORE he merged with the Anti-Phoenix and even when he did merged with the AF, he couldn't access it's power unless Rachel used the PF.
Merlyn HID from that guy.
The GF wrecked it's realities version of the PF, Galactus and devastated the ENTIRE RACE of Celestials in it's reality before it was contained. And yes those Celestials are basically 616 Celestials because the Celestials are MULTIVERSAL. You don't have to like it, but until that's retconned, it is what it is.
Fact is and is stated on panel, the entire first 50 issues of Excalibur and it's two specials were Merlyn grooming Exaclibur to deal with Necrom and using his daughter as a pawn because he was too scared to face him.
No amount of opinion or tangential scans will change this.
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So, you're still stuck on this?
What does this prove exactly since you can grasp Merlyn's theatrics?
How does this negate Merlyn's feats and/or power?
Moreover how does this boost Necrom's abilities/powers?
I mean, is this Merlyn "hiding from his opponent" vs GQ?
or . is this Merlyn (with his powers/abilities) vs GQ?
Let me know this way I can see where the "F" you're coming from,
otherwise, it's becoming annoying.
No offense, but your argument is plainly senseless here.
So, you're under the illusion that the GF is beyond "multiversal"
because it devastated the race of Celestials belonging to the Alternate Reality-1298
in a comic 13 Years ago!
And this is based on that single RECENT issue where some story is being retold
by some box made by Celestials which "claims" some Celestials were involved in
the creation of the original multiverse.
So because of this, the Goblin Queen in your mind, devastated a race of Multiversal Celestials.
So, universal power Franlin Richards was killing "Multiversal" Celestials as well. ~kadur~
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I'm being real, I like to get lifted too, so if you can fed-ex some of that greenery we good.
Fact is, you don't have anything to say on Necrom's behalf, to imply he any way is > Merlyn.
This is why you're incessantly sticking to Merlyn's incognito behavior as your defense.
I presented Merlyn's feats ...
... stop repeating the same drivel and try use Necrom feats to say something of significance.