I was having a discussion Last night with a friend. Thought id get some thought on the forums.
I was saying due to the fact that many of the Logia and Paramecium Fruit uses have such powerful abilities, even the fourth Hokage couldn't match them. Like someone such as Kizaru wouldn't even get touched by the fourth due to his intangibility and the fact that he can move at the speed of light.
My Friend thinks due to his intelligence, Teleportation abilities, and speed alone would be enough for Minato.
So the question is Would he be match any of the Top Level OP characters? Or would he fall short?
Those were my thoughts. What they said was that him being able to throw almost limitless teleportation shuriken and his lighting fast reflexes would give him an edge aginst the non logia users. I just could't convince them otherwise, lol.
I personally did expect more from one of his punches, but its a good damage soak feat for Luffy i guess. seeing as how MR. 3, and Portgas werent all that damaged from it either.
What i was saying to my friend was that since OP is a Seperate universe from Naruto entirely, the chakra that the rasengan attacks wouldnt exist in anyone from the OP universe. Aside from it being so powerful that it broke through the armament haki, i dont think it would affect them the same way.
I think Q99 is going to use the outskirts battledome stuff which I have shown to be very problematic.
The one definitive speed feat I calculated for Guy (because it was based on the gravitational constant at sea-level...which doesn't get much more accurate for speed feat calculations) shows Guy to not be anywhere near sonic or supersonic like OBD has "come up" with. Granted, that was Guy before any gates.
Kisame and Gai both, in short order, crossing a larger distance than all of Marineform or Thriller Bark, both of which took the crew significant time to cover. Pain and Naruto doing the same when Naruto chased him out of Konoha (Pain being able to use a km+ radius move and it wasn't even in sight of Konoha any more).
Nope, much more general, obvious stuff than that.
Characters in One Piece spend significant amount of time traveling distances Naruto characters travel much, much faster.
And in terms of short distance burst-speed, the stuff that the high-end Naruto characters are at least as impressive as the speed techniques like soru or gear.
Conversely- what proof is there of One Piece having higher? It seems to be just assumed, but I don't think there's much to back it up. One Piece does have higher strength, and I believe people just made the leap to assuming higher general stats.