gotta go with thor. just seems more capable even without his hammer. if his blows can make the hulk do a 360, I feel like he could knock juggs head off. and juggs aint no kurse...so he aint keepin thor at bay either.
Power gap btw Kurse and Thor was just stupid and plain on screen spite. Basically he was the Anti Thor so I don't count that fight against Thor or try and benchmark him off Kurse. Hulk was trashing Thor by the end of the fight and would have worn him down without a doubt it if the fight extended.
Thor was obviously holding back in the hell-carrier fight. what do i base this off?
- Thor knows banner is hulk. I dont think he wanted to kill or do any major damage to hulk. If you listen to what he is telling Hulk while fighting him you'll see this.
He said something like "We are your friends banner".
-Lastly why would Thor go all out and destroy the hellcarrier with all his friends in it?
He was trying to contain the hulk in that fight more than wreck him.
i dont know really. I can see hulk eventually over powering Thor, but if Thor uses his other powers then he can win IMO.
I mean what would happen if thor hits hulk with that lightning bolt he shot up at the portal? Or that hammer strike he hit the floor with in the ice giants world that shot up shockwave that was crumbling the floor and mountain walls like nothing.
Or do what he did to the Destroyer or the rock giant he broke to peices in Thor2.
Hard to say who wins, because i dont think we seen all hulk can do yet as well.
Its hard to base his strength level then because he was going all out against Kurse which had no effect cause of him being The Anti Thor. Against Hulk hes getting tossed for holding back. Goes To to Toe with Iron Man and it's basically stalemate.
Goes against Loki and he's supposedly holding back although I don't see it cause he was uber mad at Loki. Loki is no push over when it comes to fighting, and his durability is off the charts. Loki even stabbed him a few times and that actually hurt him. What are your thoughts?
Well about the kurse fight. What I get from it is that Kurse is a beast. But also Thor fought stupidly forgetting he has other powers.
The Iron man fight is like the hulk hellcarier fight. He knows that ironman isnt a villain and he isnt trying to kill him.
He always holds back against Loki. Thats what i notice. IMO he still loves him deep down as a brother. Even in Thor 2 when he (fake)died you can see this.
When Loki stabbed thor in the rooftop fight. Thor gets tiered of lokis shit and body slams him hard against the floor. Like he got tiered of taking it easy on him.
Loki then gets the fuq out of there.
This seems close to me based of Juggs being quiet indestructible, trashing a APC like a cardboard box, un effected by wolverines claws and being dematerialized into concrete without it even hurting or mixing with his internals and then busting out like it was nothing and saying his famous line.
Once Jugs starts moving I doubt Thors punches are going to hold their weight like they did to Hulk. Most of the fighting from two brawlers would be running around punching and tossing, thats where Juggs power comes from, from movement and momentum.
I don't see Thor just putting Jugs in time out based off his power set, extreme strength and durability and hand to hand skills to re enforce all that. He's quiet resilient like Thor, I think it comes down to if you believe his power set will negate Thor's blows and damage. And if Thor's punches can/will kill Juggernaut based off his insane durability.
do you think juggs is more durable than thor? I mean..i just don't see it. there is just no way juggs can put him down...after what thor has tanked and survived. the momentum thing is a problem. but only in the sense of wrapping up with him. in terms of trading blows...I think thor outlasts him. he is also the more skilled combatant.
I think the momentum thing would be a problem given thats his uber part of powers. Him no selling Adamentium with zero realized damage and him basically not being cut in half when he materialized in between a floor gives him a ridiculous density to his frame. Coupled with him no selling that APC and tossing Logan round like a toy and busting out of concrete with zero momentum means he is strong of the line. I think he's got a good chance at stale mating Thor in and H2H fight. I don't think Juggs will be taping out cause its Thor.
One problem with this assumption: He didn't actually know Iron Man at that point. So how would he know what Iron Man's intentions were?
As for the match, it's a stalemate IMO. Can't see Thor dropping Cain, based on Cain's shown durability and powers. However, Juggs hasn't shown the power output to put Thor down either.
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Last edited by TheVaultDweller on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 09:05 AM
Because Thor doesnt go around killing people that hes not sure are straight up villains.
Plus Ironman told him that Loki was a prisoner and Thor cant have him. Thor then said he is taking Loki to Asgard.
Thats how Thor knew Ironman was not a villain.
edit: I was close. here is the fight that backs up what i said . (basically )
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Last edited by Inhuman on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 09:17 AM
Honestly I don't see how, the dude was a tank crusher. If his hands are moving thats momentum and how will Thor deal with those? Could he block them or is he just gonna have to dodge and duck a lot and have to fight real smart. This is very interesting cause of Juggs power set.
Last edited by Time Immemorial on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 04:32 PM
There is an easy way to look at this. Thor with his hammer had trouble getting out of that trap box. And it was designed for Hulk. Juggs would have plowed through it like paper.
Last edited by Time Immemorial on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 10:21 PM
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