you're forgetting omega supreme.... that thing towers over the gundams with ease... and megatron's fusion canon is just as strong (if not stronger) than the double buster canon... And don't forget sunstorm.... the only thing that COULD (and did) kill him was a freak reaction of his overreactive systems fusing with a modified null ray blast then falling into a prehistoric smelting pool.... even then, he still lived for a few hours before blowing up... an explosion that simply would have ended earth....
Kontraz, you forget the size difference... Gundams are the size of transformers once over. (I.E. 1.5...ish)
As well as having gundanium armor which makes them much more resistant to damage. With DH, Altron, and Epyon in there expect to see some severed Tranformers. Fast. DH can run down any of those guys, and only Omega supreme will stand half a chance.
Sadly, Megatron (My second fav, I like Galvatron more) will not be half as effective as you say. It'll be about as strong as one of the double buster rifles fired by itself. It's really strong, but not earth destroying strong.
dreamwave has a transformers series going on right now, thats how i remember this stuff... its recent, lol
oh, nataku.... yeah, Gundam's are about 1.5 x the size of most Transformers, but Megatron is a lot more powerful in the comics than in the cartoon. He can create and wield black holes... thats pretty damn powerful even by marvel and dc standards. And personally i think sunstorm could take out ALL the gundams BY HIMSELF. To get an avid picture of sunstorm.. just think of him like this. Take Goku... now make goku a transformer, still able to go supersaiyen, have insane fighting skills, strength, speed, and able to fire energy blasts. Now give Goku wolverine's healing power and make it so everytime he heals he gets 10x stronger..... THAT'S sunstorm (who was able to down omega supreme in a matter of minutes).
Also, take Grimlock and Optimus Prime into consideration as well. Both have been able to take on and KILL gestalts. What is a gestalt? You know devestator, superion, etc. They were the big combiners that even towered over omega supreme, being about 1.5-3 times HIS size, and omega supreme could probably hold a gundam in one hand.... So yeah, grimlock and prime could probably outskill the gundam pilots... those guys are just human after all. These guys have millions upon millions of combat experience under their belts.
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i dont know about that one man. they/ve always made the gundams ridiculously powered up. the only gundam i see getting beat hands down is the B*tch ass one they show on Cartoon Network now. thats one's so weak and stupid. if they went up against gundam wing it would be more interesting
That would be a slaughter, one way or the other. If Unicron had a weak point, Zero would blast it open. If it takes the matrix, then the gundams are ****ed.
As far as Gundams VS transformers... The gundams are much faster and some are more powerful. If you face them against generic transformers, they win. If you face them against Supreme and their lot... they lose. Grimlock and Prime and Tron would last plenty... cept when the beam sabers sliced them in two.
transformers sees gundams, gundams see optimus, optimus takes half a sec and analyzes gundams and sees that they are piloted by humans. transformers shoot cockpits, pilots die, transformers take nap
and cmon people the good guys name in gundam wing is heero, wow origonal sounds nothing like hero...
Because you know... transformers weapons are strong enough to blast through gundanium and the pilots are going to sit there and let them blast them....