Personally leaning towards Torch, but not sure. The movie FF operated on a higher powerscale than the Heroes guys did. I have my doubts as to whether Sylar could take Torch's nova flames. Doom, whose body composition was described by the doctor as "tougher than carbon steel or titanium and harder than diamond", was starting to melt when Torch finally stopped his assault. Regular flesh would get incinerated in moments. Also depends on which Sylar this is. His powerset varies a lot during the seasons.
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Thinking about it some more, not sure what Sylar can do, short of going nuclear, to hurt Super Skrull Torch either. Sue's forcefields, Reed's elasticity and Things hide combined is going to make it extremely difficult to harm Johnny. And I have serious doubts as to whether Sylar's TK would work. Torch was able to produce enough thrust to reach speeds that matched the Silver Surfer. That's a hell of a lot of force. And that's not even considering Things Class 100+ strength, Reed's ability to stretch and contort his body, or Sue's own pseudo TK.
Can someone think of any of Sylar's powers, other than going nuke, that could pose a serious threat Johnny?
Not that I can recall. He never got TP and teleport/timestop, as far as I can remember. Which is the only reason classic Peter was more broken as a character than Sylar was.
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You're right. He never had Hiro's power. I was actually thinking of Peter for some reason.
Sylar is super sonic in flight speed as well and can go at least Mach 1. But he's got that shatter power and the melting power which...well it was never shown they wouldn't work on people and I don't think Johnny would have a defense against either of those. He could also turn him into gold, no defense against alchemical transmutation either. Or disintigration. Even the sonic powers he stole from Jesse(strong enough to strip flesh from a skull) Those are powers that would probably bypass any durability he possess with Things powers. And did he even use any forcefields?
Some of those powers only certain versions of Sylar had. Like he had shattering, melting etc. before the Shanti virus took them. Shattering was implied to be able to hurt humans, but was never shown to. However, it seems to require a gesture to do, as both Pearl and Trevor imitated a gun when doing so, and Trevor was unable to use his powers when Sylar had him pinned. Not sure what melting would do. It didn't save that guy from Sylar. But if it comes into play who knows what would happen. Disintegration is also another power we don't know enough about. We only see it used on non organic matter, so we don't know how it would affect a massively powered Johnny whose molecular structure was already going haywire (the whole reason he was able to take everyone's powers). All these powers in theory could potentially work, but we lack evidence to say for certain that they would (though shattering is heavily implied to be able to be used against humans, making it very dangerous).
You also might be underestimating the Thing's durability here. The guy can tank a spinning helicopter rotor blade to the face without flinching (the rotor didn't fair as well). Not to mention taking lighting blasts that blew up cars, hits from Doom, multi-story falls, getting rammed by a truck etc. I doubt sonic attacks are going to do much more than irritate him. Alchemy is a definite option if he can actually get his hands on Johnny though.
Johnny didn't actually create forcefields, but he did use invisibility, fire powers, elasticity, the super strength and rock hide simultaneously. Given his quick mastery of all the other powers, it is quite possible that he could have created forcefields if he genuinely tried. However, this is pure speculation on my part, and isn't supported by anything he does onscreen. He does however use invisibility really well. He used it quite successfully to sneak around Cosmic Doom during their fight. Sylar can't use any of his offensive powers if he can't target Johnny. Invisibility is a big game changer when both sides have the ability to take the other side out very quickly. What's to stop him from doing what he did to Doom? Turn invisible, sneak up on Sylar, restrict and then either incinerate him or simply punch his head clean off using super strength.
This is why I still think going nuke is Sylar's best option. He wouldn't need to aim at Johnny to take him out, and I don't know if the Torch is fast enough to outfly a nuclear explosion. Going nuclear isn't generally an opening move though, and it seems to require a build up.
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