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Creation vs Evolution

Sorry if this has been done, but which do you beleive in and why?

I personally beleive in the Evolution theory, because it has basically been scientifically proven. Especially by the Hard-Weinberg Principle.


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meh anotha theory iz gunna cum along eventually dat disagrees wit everything else, so i basically stik wit God since its same Shit always and is something u can definately find out for yourslef if real or not in the end

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Sorry if this has been done, but which do you beleive in and why?

I personally beleive in the Evolution theory, because it has basically been scientifically proven. Especially by the Hard-Weinberg Principle.
Hardy-Weinberg Principle.*


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Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
Sorry if this has been done, but which do you beleive in and why?

I personally beleive in the Evolution theory, because it has basically been scientifically proven. Especially by the Hard-Weinberg Principle.


http://www.reasons.org/resources/ap...oofs.shtml?main

How can disorder (Big Bang explosion) produce order?

http://www.open.org/mrdsnts/d01000.htm

Why aren't there any transitional forms of fossils showing evolutionary stages?

http://www.x-evolutionist.com/Fossils.html

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meh anotha theory iz gunna cum along eventually dat disagrees wit everything else, so i basically stik wit God since its same Shit always and is something u can definately find out for yourslef if real or not in the end


That is a very great start.

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Sorry if this has been done, but which do you beleive in and why?

I personally beleive in the Evolution theory, because it has basically been scientifically proven. Especially by the Hard-Weinberg Principle.


I believe God created the Heavens (universe) and the earth exactly the way the Bible describes. It just makes more sense. It is not plausible or believable that all life forms got here by accident starting with a cosmic explosion.

I see too much design when I look around at nature. The earth is just the precise distant from the sun (if we were any closer we would burn up; if we were any further away we would freeze).

The sun hangs on nothing: nothing under it and it is not suspended from anything. The planets revolve around the sun. The earth is tilted just the precise degree on an invisible axis.

Actually the word "cosmos" comes from the Greek kosmos and means, "an orderly harmonious systematic universe." That is exactly what this universe is.

I don't want to go on enumerating all of the wonderful reasons why I believe God created all things. I would be here till Christmas.

Check out the links.

http://www.reasons.org/resources/ap...oofs.shtml?main

How can disorder (Big Bang explosion) produce order?

http://www.open.org/mrdsnts/d01000.htm

Why aren't there any transitional forms of fossils showing evolutionary stages?

http://www.x-evolutionist.com/Fossils.html

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http://www.reasons.org/resources/ap...oofs.shtml?main

How can disorder (Big Bang explosion) produce order?

http://www.open.org/mrdsnts/d01000.htm

Why aren't there any transitional forms of fossils showing evolutionary stages?

http://www.x-evolutionist.com/Fossils.html
First link doesn't work. Big Bang doesn't really have to do with the topic, and the thing about the fossils is what we call "Missing links" This does not disprove evolution in any way. It just supports the concept of punctuated equilibruim.


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believe God created the Heavens (universe) and the earth exactly the way the Bible describes. It just makes more sense. It is not plausible or believable that all life forms got here by accident starting with a cosmic explosion.

I see too much design when I look around at nature. The earth is just the precise distant from the sun (if we were any closer we would burn up; if we were any further away we would freeze).

The sun hangs on nothing: nothing under it and it is not suspended from anything. The planets revolve around the sun. The earth is tilted just the precise degree on an invisible axis.

I don't want to go on enumerating all of the wonderful reasons why I believe God created all things. I would be here till Christmas.

Check out the links.
http://www.reasons.org/resources/ap...oofs.shtml?main

How can disorder (Big Bang explosion) produce order?

http://www.open.org/mrdsnts/d01000.htm

Why aren't there any transitional forms of fossils showing evolutionary stages?

http://www.x-evolutionist.com/Fossils.html


*cough*

This is an argument of ignorance, specifically known as the "God of the Gaps" fallacy.

There is a gap in scientific knowledge.
The gap is filled with acts of God
Therefore God exists

(How many times have i spammed this quote . . . .)


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http://www.reasons.org/resources/ap...oofs.shtml?main

Let's see if this link works.
Didn't.

Edit: Oh wait upon clicking it again, now it does.


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Re: Re: Creation vs Evolution

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I believe God created the Heavens (universe) [B]and the earth exactly the way the Bible describes. It just makes more sense. It is not plausible or believable that all life forms got here by accident starting with a cosmic explosion.




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ye evolution basically is dat we r animals and dats wat we was and all we will eve will be there is no point in existence we are nothing special, And then theres God we are something special and all that. There has to a soul within because first of all science states that "Energy cannot be created nor destroyed it can only be changed". Matter comes from energy. our body is made of matter, how does our body work from the very deepest part? The mind which is our emotions, thought and sum would say spirit or soul. Since our bodies produce electromagnetic fields that keep us alive it has 2 come from some energy source inside us. When we die This energy SHOULD go Somewhere since Energy CANNOT be destroyed but only changed... And dats wat we call a soul

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Yes, it's called Adenosine Triphosphate. (ATP)


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Yes, it's called Adenosine Triphosphate. (ATP)


Did you learn anything Flamboyant?

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My belief is that there is some kind of 'higher power', although I don't strictly follow any organised religion as I believe their messages have been too manipulated by men for political ends over the past few thousand years.

However; the evidence for Evolution is overwhelming; the evidence for the creation story in the bible has several major flaws; the most prominent being that you could quite easily translate the original Hebrew to English or Latin with several different versions, so how can you be sure the bible you read has the actual true intended meaning? For example, the Hebrew word for 'days' is the same as the Hebrew word for 'ages'.

The world ISN'T just several thousand years old; it is millions of years old. There is overwhelming evidence for this. I'm sorry, but anyone who takes the creation story of Genesis as - excuse the pun - Gospel has little grasp on reality and lives in a dream world. I don't mean that as a personal slur on any individual here and I speak in generic terms.

However, that is NOT to deny the existence of a higher power, call it God, Allah, Mother Earth, etc... I agree there is too much design in the world. But, to follow the Creationist line is just, in my personal opinion, utter craziness.


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well actually he kinda agreed with me but he stated it in a scientific term but what i used was a spiritual explanation but these days things seem 2 be more advanced and people would rather have it explained da otha way but its the exact same thing :-/

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Did you learn anything Flamboyant?
Eh. Not really. Just because the universe started somewhere does not mean that it was started by an omnipresent, omnipotent being. It's definitaly possible but in my opinion not probable. I am Catholic, but I can say that faith only goes so far. It was a very interesting article though.


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My belief is that there is some kind of 'higher power', although I don't strictly follow any organised religion as I believe their messages have been too manipulated by men for political ends over the past few thousand years.

However; the evidence for Evolution is overwhelming; the evidence for the creation story in the bible has several major flaws; the most prominent being that you could quite easily translate the original Hebrew to English or Latin with several different versions, so how can you be sure the bible you read has the actual true intended meaning? For example, the Hebrew word for 'days' is the same as the Hebrew word for 'ages'.

The world ISN'T just several thousand years old; it is millions of years old. There is overwhelming evidence for this. I'm sorry, but anyone who takes the creation story of Genesis as - excuse the pun - Gospel has little grasp on reality and lives in a dream world. I don't mean that as a personal slur on any individual here and I speak in generic terms.

However, that is NOT to deny the existence of a higher power, call it God, Allah, Mother Earth, etc... I agree there is too much design in the world. But, to follow the Creationist line is just, in my personal opinion, utter craziness.
Agreed.


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Eh. Not really. Just because the universe started somewhere does not mean that it was started by an omnipresent, omnipotent being. It's definitaly possible but in my opinion not probable. I am Catholic, but I can say that faith only goes so far.


Well Nothing Cant create something, someone had to start it, there is also that theory of "Intelligent Design" but you dont hear of it much because these days people dont want to hear about a God for some reason they would rather think we are pointless, im not saying that for the people who believe in Evolution but just to the people Who dont believe in anything period

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