I suppose it depends on how much you want to apply ABC logic. Deacon Frost could bullet time due to being a vamp and Blade didn't seem *weaker* then Frost prior to his Blood God status. But Blade himself doesn't really seem to ever show bullet timing, but if we granted it to him he'd be quicker.
Marcus is physically more powerful and also immune to silver and sunlight. So it's going to be impossible for Blade to prevent him from getting up close.
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I go with Blade. All of Blade foes have been more powerful than him. So Marcus being more powerful is nothing new for Blade. Blade wins due to superior skill and weapons.
Drake, Nomak, and Frost, all have immunities that Marcus has and more. Marcus is even getting chopped up by Blades sword or exploding due to the weapons that Blade's has such as the ones he used on Frost and Drake.
Yes and frankly Blade got lucky to win in the first two movies and outright lost in the final one.
Nomak wasn't immune to sunlight. We saw no indication Blood God Frost was. I'm guessing he probably would of been, but we have no proof.
Then there is Drake who was immune to silver and sunlight..just like Marcus. Remember how that fight ended? Drake beat Blade down and was killed by some vamp virus. The virus used on Drake wasn't Blades, he doesn't carry it around.
Likewise, we don't even have any evidence the virus would work on vampires from other works of fiction. Just like Blade using his serum to defeat Frost, we have no reason to assume this would do anything to Marcus, because why? Hell for all we know for some reason Frost becoming the Blood God made him highly allergic to the serum, whereas maybe normally he might not of been killed by so much serum.
All we know is that the person in Blade closest to Marcus outright beat the shit out of Blade.
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It wasn't serum that killed Frost and yes it would have killed him without being the blood god since Blade used it to kill several vamps prior to using it on Frost.
Either was Marcus wins. Blade's skill and weapons allow him to put up a good fight but in the end he shouldn't beat Marcus
Wait so what killed him? Since I remember he gets a bunch of serum stabbed into him and then he explodes.
EDIT: Okay, I remember now. It was some kind of altered serum meant to kill vamps.
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Anyone would be lucky to win against Nomak or Frost as the blood god. However Blade skills did keep him alive long enough to do what was needed.
Ok. My statement is obviously confusing. The point I wanted to make was that each of the people Blade face had an immunity that Marcus had plus more. Nomak was immune to sliver and the EDTA (which might work on Marcus). Nomak also could repair broken limbs immediately, something I do not recall Marcus doing.
Frost was immune to everything except for the EDTA. The purpose of obtaining the powers of the Blood God was so that Frost could go out in the daylight. Frost could generate body parts immediately.
Drake we already know about.
I do not agree with your statements here. Since we are crossing universes and using them in a vs thread there has to be a good reason to say that certain weapons would not work. First question is what is so different about the Vamps in Underworld from the ones in Blade? Are there immunities different? No.
Marcus only advantage is that he is a hybrid. Still, I do not know if that would protect him from the EDTA since Frost who was immune to light was affected. Also, Frost got hit with numerous EDTAs to take him out not one. Other vamps die from one dose of EDTA.
Also Marcus is not Drake. Marcus Father would be the equivalent of Drake.
Either way Marcus has brute strength but not enough speed or strength to compensate from Blade’s skill with his sword which would end with Marcus head coming off.
Vamps in Blade are very different from those in Underworld. First and foremost, UW vamps have no aversion to silver, that's exclusively a Lycan thing.
Secondly, Vampires in the Blade U have a basis in science. I haven't seen the original Blade in forever, but IIRC, EDTA was a simple anti-coagulant that messed with some protein in vamp blood which resulted in the volatile reaction.
UW vamps are supernatural, and as far as I know, the extra protein or whatever is exclusive to the Blade U, so I see no reason to assume that EDTA would do anything to Markus, other than make him bleed slightly more.
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I don't recall about the sliver part, I have to check that one. How does UW universe not have a basis on science when it all started from a virus? Blade is more supernatural yet science was able to still have an effect. I would say science would have more of an effect in UW than Blade’s U.
Also if you are correct about the sliver that is just one difference and definitely not large enough to make the two universes that separated.
Ok, I'll play devils advocate and go with you on UW vamps being based in science. It still doesn't change the fact that the reason EDTA works is unique to the Blade U. The protein that causes the volatile reaction when EDTA is introduced doesn't exist. There's no reason to assume that something made up for the Blade movies would exist in a completely unrealated universe.
Logically, if you shot Markus up with an anticoagulant it would simply make him bleed more for a brief period of time.
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I was looking up some info on Blade U and UW U. Both vamps are made from a virus. So both are in the science area more than the supernatural.
As for the EDTA blood thinner, perhaps I am missing something. What protein are you referring to? To my knowledge all we know is that Vamps blood have a violent reaction to the EDTA. I do not recall it being explained as to why.
It might not have been a protein, but there was some specific property in Vampire blood that resulted in a volatile reaction. That doctor lady was explaining it to Whistler when she was trying to create a cure for vampirism. But, essentially it was a created plot device, and there's no reason to assume it would apply to Markus.
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I tried to find a quote or scene where it is stated that a specific property or something would differ from UW and I was not able to find it.
I do not recall an explanation as to why the EDTA was so dangerous to the Vamps in Blade. Either way we can't be 100% sure that it would work on Marcus because he is Hybrid.
As for it working on Vamps in UW I see no reason as to why it wouldn't. Both vamps in Blade and UW U are made from a virus. They have the same abilities and characteristics. Since EDTA is a blood thinner I do not see how it wouldn't have an effect on Vamps.
You are drawing parallels where there is none for the most part. The virus in Underworld is not be the same virus in Blade. Why would it be? Many viruses IRL produce similar symptoms as other viruses. Example, the difference between colds and flus. The same medication may not work for one as it does the other.
The origins for the Vampirism in Blade is vastly different than that of the one in Underworld. And there has already been established that mysticism exists in Blade (The whole La Magra Blood God thing), and on top of this, the weaknesses of Blade Vampires are more numerous. Silver Nitrate, Garlic, UV Radiation, all are part of Bladeverse Vampire weaknesses, whereas only one of these affects UW Vampires. It would not be prudent at all to say the EDTA Anti Coagulant would be effective against UW Vampires without some solid evidence to back it up.
The parallel is that both universes are based more on science then the supernatural. This give opens up ways in which weapons of science could have an effect on Vamps in both universes.
*Side note you example of meds for colds and flu is not a good one but I understand the point you are trying to make.
Different but similar in that they are both products of viruses.
There is only assumption here. There is no solid evidence to say that the EDTA would not work in the same way. All the weakness mention are common to vampires in folklore. Whether in some universes vamps are effected by more or less they still the common weaknesses known for vampires.
Since they don’t say how the EDTA exactly fatally causes damage, just like we don’t know exactly how garlic or sliver or even sunlight in some cases work to fatally cause damage to a vampire, I do not see enough differences with UW to say that it is not possible that the EDTA would not work in the say way.
Now as stated previously by me, Marcus is a hybrid so the EDTA may have no effect even if we could prove 100% that it effected vampires in the UW universe.
Actually, it is explained how EDTA exactly works, I've tried telling you this but I can't remember the whole scene, I haven't seen Blade for a while. If I can be arsed to watch it soon I'll come back and explain.
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