I personally think Ozy would beat The First Avenger Cap.. Probably split with WS or lose a slight majority. AOU Cap I would think wins. So... If Ozy has help from WS can they both beat Cap h2h?
He can beat both solo, but I don't see him taking both on at once and winning. Bucky was matching Steve virtually move for move in both their encounters. Some people say Steve held back during their second fight, but he had no idea who WS was during their first encounter, and he didn't have any easier time there either.
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You realize that First Avenger Cap and AOU Cap are the same person, right?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Ozy's never been hit by anybody as hard as Cap will hit him. He's probably got a glass jaw lol. You don't know how to take a punch until you actually get punched and Ozy only fought people below his level by a good margin. And the closest he got was Comedian who at that point was like 15 years past his prime, and a raging alcoholic.
Not on this forum they aren't. If the OP states Cap from FA.. than only his feats count. Which is EXACTLY why we specify which movie we are using. So no, if I say FA Cap vs. Ozy.. that doesn't mean you get to use feats from AOU... are you claiming you can?
By all means, provide a quote from Imp that states FA and AOU Cap are two different people and thus feats from one can't be used for the other.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Are you doing your dumb routine or are you being genuine. Point me to any place where I said they were two different characters. This is how I know when I get you... You come back with something I never said and a question I never presented. I ASKED YOU... if I SPECIFY that we are using cap from FA... are YOU claiming you can use feats from AOU? Simple question.
The point he's making is that Cap from FA is the same cap from AoU. There is no difference whatsoever aside from movie. So anything he did in AoU or WS or Avengers should be doable by FA Cap.
Easily done, I asked if you knew they were the same person and the very first sentence in your response has you claiming that they are in fact not the same person.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I very much understand the point he's making, but it's irrelevant to the discussion. I never claimed they were two different characters. The point is, if I specify FA Cap, then the OP guidelines must be respected. Just because it's the same character doesn't he can't improve just like anybody else. Time and experience can make anybody better.. including Cap. Stop trying to break the forum rules. If a specific character from a specific movie is the one the OP intends to be in the thread.. then those are the only feats that you can use. Period. Stop trying to make this about me not understanding his point, which I do, when in fact this about his point being wrong.
I just posted a quote proving that you did indeed claim that they were different characters.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
So it's the dumb routine. I never said they were two different people.. that sentence refers to the fact that we CAN distinguish characters from different movies and only use feats for a specific movie. You've now avoided the question for the second time...
IF I Specify I want Cap from the FA movie and his feats only... are you claiming we can use WS feats?
Again, I just posted the quote proving that you claimed that they were different people, lying about it at this point just makes you look dumb.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
NO you didn't, you reading comprehension failed you again. I said, not on this forum they aren't.. If somebody ONLY wants a CAP from FA.. then his feats from WS aren't admissible for him as a character. It doesn't matter if they are the same or not. If the OP specifically says you can only use this movie... all other movies from him don't exist anymore. It's only that movie. I never, not one time, said they were two different characters.
The whole point is that Cap has been the same through all the movies. He just performed different feats in them. There's been no mention of a boost, or upgrade, or alteration to his powers, so the only conclusion is that he's simply doing more as time goes on.
Would you say Beatrix Kiddo couldn't do the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart technique in Kill Bill 1 since she only did it in 2? Despite it being made very clear Pai Mei taught her the technique far before the events of the movie even happened?
Here is me asking if you're aware that they are the same person.
Here is you claiming that they aren't the same person.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
You posted zero quotes where I claimed they were different. The quote you keep quoting has to do with no they aren't the same on this forum. If somebody specifies FA... then those are the ONLY feats you can use. The other movies might as well not exist. They might as well be a totally different character. It was very clear what I was saying, as I've kept on saying the same thing. Now answer my question
Sure I did, I'll post it again
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Here is me asking if you're aware that they are the same person.
Here is you claiming that they aren't the same person.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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