Logan stabbed his claws clean through Cain's arm. He punched him to the ground and the moment the claws were out of his body, he was healed. Wasn't even any blood. And when he got stabbed, he seemed more surprised that Logan stabbed him than hurt. He even stabbed Cain in the head I think, as he used his body as a lightning rod so Storm could electrocute him, but stone doesn't conduct electricity so he had to have stabbed him directly for it to work. Cain was still fine aside from the lightning, but he was okay from that too later on.
And Cain shouldn't have any trouble beating Loki. He's stronger going by feats, and can tank or heal whatever Loki throws at him. When he gets his hands on him, he'll just beat him down.
Last edited by KingD19 on Jan 6th, 2016 at 07:44 PM
Thor can I think. He's got higher strength feats and lightning temporarily stopped Cain. And we now know Thor can generate lightning on his own. So if he can do that, he has a sure win. If not then he has access to BFR I suppose, as I'm not certain what level of force is needed to KO Cain if it's even possible without exotic circumstances(like directly electrocuting his brain to the point you can see electricity dancing on his stone helmet or being turned human before cracking his head on a wall running full speed). But Thor is in the strength/durability range where Cain shouldn't be able to do too much damage.
Thor created some around him in a magical well, and he was not actually in control of it, so I dunno about that working for him in combat, nor was it shown.
I also listed that fight as H2h. So how do you see that fight?
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Most people won't remember it, because it's an extended cut that wasn't actually in the Cinematic release, so unknown if it is even canon. Which is actually worse for his opponents, considering in the cinematic release I think even Logan's clawed hits just kind of glanced off him instead of cutting him. Been a while since I watched it though. But here is the scene in question:
At 0:28 he sticks his claws straight through Cain's arm to absolutely no effect.
Only people who could potentially stop him are Thor and Zeus here. Not sure what even Tony could do, purely because of Juggs' powerset. He could literally just keep shoulder charging Tony until Veronica starts getting torn apart, and Tony won't have much of an answer. Any damage Tony might possibly be able to inflict would just heal.
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Last edited by TheVaultDweller on Jan 7th, 2016 at 03:32 AM
One thing to be said about that video though, is that Juggs punches Wolverine multiple times and is unable to KO him. That makes me question whether he has enough power output to KO Thor or Loki.
Yet later on he stepped on an APC and crumpled it beneath his feet like paste. And he was casually ramming through multiple foot thick stone walls. Cain on feats is stronger than anyone Logan has ever fought.
As for the fight with Thor, if BFR is an option, it's his best one. As KO may be possible, but we're not sure how much is actually needed.
Last edited by KingD19 on Jan 7th, 2016 at 04:01 AM
That movie upped Wolverine durability and healing factor. Jean was melting metal, tanks, etc...but Wolverine healing factor tanked everything she threw at him. That movie was his high.
It should also be noted that Wolverine's KO consistency in the first trilogy is somewhat suspect. Gets KO'd by a tree in the first film, which is not a very good showing. Then also gets KO'd by a single gunshot in X2, but then can take numerous hits and getting tossed around by Deathstrike later on, who displays quite significant levels of superstrength, but it hardly slows him down at all. Then in X3 he can survive the Juggs beating and everything Jean threw at him, yet Magneto tossing him some distance into a tree followed by him falling on the ground knocks him out (when he tanked jumping out of a plane in Origins).
Whether he got KO'd or not in the original trilogy depended almost solely on the plot at that point in time. They needed the other X-men to enter the fray when Creed KO'd him in X1. The gunshot KO was so that Pyro could have his moment. Juggs couldn't KO him so that he could claw his way over to Jean and Xavier to watch her kill him. Mags needed to KO him so that his brotherhood army could escape etc.
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